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Bubba Lives (1/30)
 6/23/13 8:39am
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I'm doing the interior and gauges of my 72 now. Here's what I found. No two screws are the same on various portions the same part. Most screws are rusty. (Yes, age and water are named Bubba too.) Bubba visited the driver's door latch mechanism. He broke part of the lock then attached the handle with the wrong screw. I had to drill out the oversized screw. That was fun. :( The gauge cluster had been reattached wrong and sat in the dash askew. Bubba dyed much of the interiorin place so I get to clean up all kinds of overspray. He got a windshield leak and sealed it from the inside with two colors of silicone. I get to replace the rusty window frame... maybe more. I love Bubba. He helped me learn all about my new vette. Can anyone top my Bubba encounter?

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Re: Bubba Lives (2/30)
 6/23/13 12:36pm
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At least now you know everything will be done right now.
I was lucky with mine. Not too many non-professionals worked on it over the years.
Except of course for me.Cry


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Re: Bubba Lives (3/30)
 6/24/13 8:20am
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dwright said: At least now you know everything will be done right now.
I was lucky with mine. Not too many non-professionals worked on it over the years.
Except of course for me.Cry



Yeah... someday someone will call me Bubba. :-D

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Re: Bubba Lives (4/30)
 6/24/13 1:21pm
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Re: Bubba Lives (5/30)
 6/25/13 12:55pm
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I have those tools and my name is Bob I hope I am not bubba cousin
Re: Bubba Lives (6/30)
 6/25/13 1:48pm
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rraider1 said: I have those tools and my name is Bob I hope I am not bubba cousin

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Re: Bubba Lives (7/30)
 6/25/13 3:17pm
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I am Bubba.  Its not that I don't want to do it right, its the money man, the money!
Re: Bubba Lives (8/30)
 6/25/13 11:07pm
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I have to admit about being a recovering Bubba - I've had the car for 11 years now and virtually all of the Bubba stuff is mine!  (Seems like the other two owners used a dealer for just about everything - car was bone stock when I bought it.)  It's interesting to see the changes I've made in my philosophies over the years.  Stuff I did 11 years ago no longer meets my standards and I've redone most of it.  Except the "two-piece" radiator shroud -- that is definitely Bubba but I'm keeping that!  So much easier to remove the shroud and/or radiator that way.  

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Re: Bubba Lives (9/30)
 7/26/13 3:14pm
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Well... Bubba struck me again. My gauge cluster bezel is different than most. It comes in two pieces. It doesn't fit just right and I've been scratching my head for a month.
Now, I realized, it's not SUPPOSED to be in two pieces. Bubba broke it at some point and just reinstalled it anyway. That's why it doesn't fit right. Confused
 
So I figure if it were an NCRS car it would be dinged unless I replace the bezel. It would be dinged because it's broken. If I countersink two holes in the top portion and attach it to the dash (like the lower portion of the bezel) it will be dinged because it's modified. Either way I lose.
 
So... I'll contersink some holes and attach it to the dash just because it will look better. Does that mean I'M Bubba?


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Re: Bubba Lives (10/30)
 7/26/13 3:34pm
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Those bezels on the 76 and earlier cars are very, very fragile just below the A/C vents.  That part is razor thin, and if you try to install or adjust it by pushing the top of the bezel in place it will snap very easily.  New ones are not cheap.  The 77 and later cars bezels were made of plastic, a lot more sturdy, and they fit a lot better. 

And yep, drilling holes where they don't belong is definitely a Bubba move!  Welcome to the family!

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Re: Bubba Lives (11/30)
 7/26/13 4:44pm
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Sometimes drilling a coupla holes and installing a coupla screws for a total cost of 50 cents makes more sense than spending over $100 to get basically the same look and functionality.
 
I guess Bubba is practical. Tongue  (And/or poor.)
 
By the way, by the looks of your Vette you're not shooting for NCRS. No matter, that is one sweet looking Vette. Clap


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Re: Bubba Lives (12/30)
 7/26/13 10:05pm
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Thanks! I am shooting for NCRS, but in my case, it stands for "Not Correctly Restored Stingray!"

Unfortunately, with work being the way that it is, the closest I get to the car right now is this forum.  I had plans to have it ready for Cruising the Coast this year, but it looks like 2014.  I have two transmission cooling lines to connect and then start and break in the engine, then get the car ready for paint.  So close I can taste it.

Fortunately, my Dad is a Vetteaholic so I live vicariously through him.  He has an '04 Torch Red Convertible, a '69 350 4-speed coupe, and a '69 427 Convertible.  I get my Vette fix occasionally!  :)

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Re: Bubba Lives (13/30)
 7/28/13 10:44am
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I sorely need a paint job and minor body work. About $6500 should do it. I'm sorely tempted to go to our vettefest show and shine with this sign. "Soon to be retired enthusiast needs to continue restoration. Anything helps." Not to disrespect truly needy people but I'm also stalled due to lack of funds. Sigh...

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Re: Bubba Lives (14/30)
 7/28/13 1:13pm
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My bezel has been broken at that location below the vents since before I bought the car.  Fortunately I've taken it apart and put it back together numerous times and I always seem to get it back together so it's not noticeable.  requires some jockeying, though.  I concur, I'll go with the Bubba move in this case, no reason to replace that particular part at this particular juncture....

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Re: Bubba Lives (15/30)
 7/28/13 11:45pm
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Oh good. I have a co-conspirator. I hate to drill those holes but... I hate the ill fitting bezel more.

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Re: Bubba Lives (16/30)
 7/29/13 9:19pm
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In the immortal words of Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele: "Drill Baby, Drill!"

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Re: Bubba Lives (17/30)
 8/19/13 3:27pm
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OMG!!!
 
Bubba is outdoing himself on my car. Tranny leak. One of the leaks is coming from the shifter. Tranny guy checks it out closely and finds that there is no seal. Thus the leak. AND... Bubba apparently tried to seal it himself using... wait for it... EPOXY! Tranny guy doesn't know yet if there is a crack or a chunk taken out of the case or whether Bubba was just trying to create his own seal.
 
More later as the saga unfolds. Disapprove


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Re: Bubba Lives (18/30)
 8/20/13 1:18pm
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Gomer and Goober strike again!! I'm curious to see what he finds.....stay tuned, indeed!

 

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Re: Bubba Lives (19/30)
 8/20/13 2:01pm
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Well, I have some answers. I went to the shop and I saw my tranny laid out in all of its glory.
 
Bubba did not try to build a seal with epoxy. At some point he decided to remove the shifter seal but, without benefit of the proper tool he did it with a screw driver or a chisel. He did a lot of damage to the case and he put a big gouge and left a large burr in the shifter shaft.
 
When he put the tranny back together he inserted the seal and because of the damage he had done the seal didn't seal. So, he covered it with epoxy hoping to stop the leak.
 
Now I get to buy a new shaft and new tranny case. I guess the good news is that this 42-year-old tranny with 147,000 miles on it was completely original and could probably use a face-lift anyway.
 
I was given the option of just putting in the necessary parts and put it back together or doing a rebuild. I chose to put in a new shift kit. The expensive hard parts are fine. But as long as I have to have it torn apart to fix Bubba's little adventure I may as well come out of it with a new transmission.  
 
Goober and Gomer for sure. Even Bubba knows better than this. Censored


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Re: Bubba Lives (20/30)
 8/20/13 5:17pm
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What kind of $$$ are they wanting to do a "Shift Kit"? Gotta be careful....all it takes is drillin a couple of holes a little larger, and removing a couple of springs to make one shift pretty firm. That don't really cost anything. If you buy a commercial "Shift Kit", it could cost quite a bit, and you'll wind up with the same shifts as the no-cost deal....
just throwin that out there....don't wanna see anyone get the shaft(no pun intended).

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Re: Bubba Lives (21/30)
 8/20/13 5:26pm
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Sigh. I'm gonna be in this for about $1,200 depending on the cost of the case. New case, new or rebuilt torque converter. And yes, they're going to drill a little bit to make the shift just a little more firm. Not sloppy like it was before. This is at or around the lowest price I've found in town.
 
They quoted me $200 to fix the leaks. That is... until they found the damage Bubba had done.
 
It's very very easy for tranny guys to take people for a ride. I think these guys are honest enough. (They do have a very good reputation.)


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 8/20/13 10:04pm
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dbarnesid said:It's very very easy for tranny guys to take people for a ride.


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LOL LOL LOL
But yer right..lottsa scammers out there. It pays to do your research before shelling out hard earned cash. $1200 might sound like a lot, but in reality, for a Corvette trans, it's really not. They're not the easiest things to get out or put in, so they is a little more labor intensive than other cars of the era. The trans itself is just a trans....it's the labor that cost on these cars.
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Re: Bubba Lives (23/30)
 8/21/13 9:03am
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I'm more hopeful thanks to you. I wish you could do the work but the drive to Texas would cost me $1200. Smile. They convinced me to get a new torque converter or rebuild mine because of accumulated crap inside. Do you agree?

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Re: Bubba Lives (24/30)
 8/21/13 9:38am
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David, As Joel has said, it's the labor that really gets you with these cars.  Don't skimp on the parts...lord knows I've done that when doing stuff on my own in the past and have paid the price of having to do it over.  You hate to have to go back in and have to replace the converter a yr or three down the road.

Like you mentioned it's better to find a good, honest mechanic than to find the cheapest.  Often the honest ones end up saving you time and money anyway.

As far as having Joel do the work, wouldn't that be great to show up at his door with a tranny on your shoulder!  "morning, where you want it!"


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Re: Bubba Lives (25/30)
 8/21/13 10:16am
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dads2vette said: David, As Joel has said, it's the labor that really gets you with these cars.  Don't skimp on the parts...lord knows I've done that when doing stuff on my own in the past and have paid the price of having to do it over.  You hate to have to go back in and have to replace the converter a yr or three down the road.

Like you mentioned it's better to find a good, honest mechanic than to find the cheapest.  Often the honest ones end up saving you time and money anyway.

As far as having Joel do the work, wouldn't that be great to show up at his door with a tranny on your shoulder!  "morning, where you want it!"

I think I'd say, "Hey Bubba, where you want it?"  Evil Smile
 
I do wonder about the little mods they're going to do. They have been doing Chevy trannies for a long time. Their dad started the company some 40 years ago and the sons have been working there for 27 years. Not bad. Anyhoo... they want to make the car shift a little more like a sports car than a Caddy. So they propose doing a little drilling to make the shifting be a bit more firm, not squishy like it is now.
 
Is there anything I need to know about this? Anything I should tell them about what I want before it's too late?
 
And you're right, Dave. The tranny is on the bench in about 100 pieces right now. Why not put it back together right? That way I don't do it again. You know, I spent this much on a new interior but I have heartburn over the tranny. That's just messed up thinking. The tranny makes it go while the interior just looks good. Crazy...



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Re: Bubba Lives (26/30)
 8/21/13 11:28am
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dbarnesid said:It's very very easy for tranny guys to take people for a ride.


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LOL LOL LOL
But yer right..lottsa scammers out there. It pays to do your research before shelling out hard earned cash. $1200 might sound like a lot, but in reality, for a Corvette trans, it's really not. They're not the easiest things to get out or put in, so they is a little more labor intensive than other cars of the era. The trans itself is just a trans....it's the labor that cost on these cars.
Hope they do ya a good job! Thumbs Up



Okay Joel. The final total for this rebuild is $1364.92 out the door. Includes new converter (stock, not high stall) and good used case.

How does that sound to you?

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Re: Bubba Lives (27/30)
 8/21/13 1:22pm
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Honestly? It's a pretty decent deal. Around here, you'd be looking at prolly $2000 or more....and you'd prolly wind up with a few more scratches on the car than it had when you took it in....LOL


And yeah....a new converter is a no brainer, considering they're only like, $50 these days. Poke a few holes here, stretch a spring or two there, block the accumulators, and you've got you one fine shiftin trans for....well...nothin!
Hope it works well for ya....a Corvette SHOULD shift like a real car. Thumbs Up


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Re: Bubba Lives (28/30)
 8/22/13 9:55pm
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Breakdown: 531.00: Parts. 748.00: Labor. 52.00 grease and tranny oil Big hit was 175.00 for used case and 120.00 for converter. It shifts pretty nice. A little abrupt between 1 and 2. It really flies when I hit passing gear. Not so before. I still wanna emasculate Bubba though.

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Re: Bubba Lives (29/30)
 4/14/14 1:26pm
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Well, my restoration is not complete and I found that Bubba had been there once again. While replacing all of my vacuum hoses here's what I found. (Hey... some of those hoses are 40 years old. Maybe that's why I'm not getting good response in the headlight system or why the wipers don't work at all. Doesn't hurt to do this while the dash pad is off anyway.)
 
Near the passenger side wiper there is a wiper valve. Three hoses attached to that valve. One from the override, one to the relay and one is a vent tube. Well... Bubba thought it would be a good idea to drive a screw into the end of the vent tube. Prolly thought it was a hose going nowhere that needed to be plugged. Hard to say how Bubba thinks (that's because sometimes I'm Bubba too).
 
I wonder if this has anything to do with why my wipers don't work? Maybe... Stern Smile


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Re: Bubba Lives (30/30)
 4/14/14 4:19pm
apasbigal
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goldens bridge, NY - USA

Vette(s):
1972 T-Top 350 auto, matching numbers,Blue, ac


Joined: 11/3/2003
Posts: 498

bubba hooked my vent line up to the intake manifold so it had vacuum on it . Go figure that one out Big Al

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