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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (16/26)
 11/25/12 8:49am
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John...the problem with my car is that the radiator is original and had little to no maintenance in its life..I may remove it this winter and get it cleaned out...hope Rick doesn't have to do that and the new hose with the spring works out.

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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (17/26)
 11/27/12 8:56pm
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Got my new hose today from corvette America. If all go right I'll be putting it on Thursday afternoon( got a interview in the morning) ....so I will post after I try it out will let you all know if successful. Rick

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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (18/26)
 11/27/12 11:09pm
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Hope the new lower does the trick.  Running abit without the t-stat in place would also let you see it the radiator is indeed cooling enough.  If there is a build up of rust and/or scale in the radiator that could impede the cooling.  A fellow on the Model A club I've joined has recommended running pure vinegar in the cooling system to dissolve the crub.  He claims it cleaned everything out clean as a whistle.  I know the cooling systems between a Model A and a C3 Corvette are quite abit different but they're very similar in function.
 
Also make sure the radiator support seals are in place.  Any air slipping through the gaps between the radiator support and the radiator is air that isn't helping to cool.


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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (19/26)
 11/28/12 12:12am
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Just two comments.
 
Don't forget to check the actual flow.  I have seen water pumps that seem okay but have impleller blades rotted or rusted to the point they either are not there or have come loose from the shaft.    It just won't pump the coolant.   Uncommon, but not rare.
 
Removing the thermostat completely will allow a quick check, but when driven can acutally CAUSE and overheat problem.   The stat acts like a restrictor to flow, slowing it down at high engine speed.   IF the coolant flows too fast it can travel through the radiator quicker than it can be cooled, resulting in still too hot coolant going back into the engine, and not cooling, but overheating instead.
 
While this usually does not happen at low to medium engine RPM,  many driving conditions can cause this to happen.   Often racers will remove the t-stat but install a restrictor in it's place.  This is nothing but a large washer with a hole in it to control the coolant flow.
 
Of course removing the t-stat and starting the car will allow you to see the volicity of the coolant flow through the radiator, if you can see in the tank.  Some of our designs may prevent getting a clear view, but most will allow it.
Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (20/26)
 11/30/12 9:00am
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Good flex fans work fine & will tolerate 10K RPM. I've used them on various cars for many yrs with no problems. If your car is overheating & you have a correctly placed fan, clutch,flex or electric you have other issues. Making sure all air goes through the radiator is a real problem & will cause overheating at highway speeds on C-3's. If your bottom hose is being sucked in your radiator is probably clogged. Water wetter will really help bring the temp down 10-20 degrees & running a 25% antifreeze mixture will help too. water dissipates heat much better than antifreeze, but you need some antifreeze to control corrosion. I personally use flex fans on 2 high performance engines & they keep the engine right at 175-180 degrees in all weather. I also have one with electric  fans that also work  fine. Flex fan can be noisy , but if you exhaust is noisy you'll never notice it.  So I think it really comes down to a personal choice. Flex fans can be adjusted in & out to really get the proper air flow which is critical to coolling efficiency.
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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (21/26)
 11/30/12 6:31pm
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I found this on Willcox Corvette and thought it might help.

http://willcoxcorvette.com/instructions/johns_cooling_article.pdf


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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (22/26)
 11/30/12 10:10pm
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Well I got everything changed,man what a pain in the *#*.I also did a couple of small fixes. Well ran out of time so tomorrow is the big day to see of I fixed the overheating problem. If not then the only thing left is the radiator. Rick
Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (23/26)
 12/1/12 5:48pm
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I am another one in the no flex fans club - I race in SCCA events and they are not permitted for a darn good reason. And I have had them let go, with one in particular creating a nice hole in the hood of a classic 1969 Ford LTD.  A fan with a clutch will be as effective in cooling, if not more so, and is much safer. Check the clutch!  Other items to check that caused some heat problems with my C3:
1. Shroud in good shape and properly installed
2. seals between hood and radiator are critical to prevent air from just spilling over the top of the radiator
3. air dam/spoiler in place.
4. if all else fails, get a nice Spal electric fan to supplement the cooling
 
Just my humble opinion....good luck. I had to work on mine to get it cool during NC summers.


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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (24/26)
 12/1/12 11:43pm
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Rick, if you do have to replace the radiator get the direct fit aluminum one. I got mine from Corvette America but MAM and Corvette Central sells the same one. Made an amazing difference in my car! Good luck and hope it works out!
 
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Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (25/26)
 12/2/12 11:11am
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Well I let the car  running and got it up to temp....then drove it for a little the temp got to just below the 200 line and stayed there.(I have a 195 thermostat) So hopefully this solves my overheating problem.
                                Rick
Re: Flex Fan or no Flex Fan (26/26)
 12/2/12 3:03pm
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Yeah! I love when aproblem gets solved! Great to hear, Rick!
 
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