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heater core dimensional problem (1/16)
 2/25/12 10:00pm
daveo76
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Months ago I bought a new heater core from Autozone -- dashboard is apart so I thought I should replace it.  Well, just started the project today.  Got the heater box out and took it apart and lo and behold the old core has different dims than the new one.   The old one is 2.5" thick and the new one is only 2" thick.   It doesn't seem like this should be a big problem, except for the brackets that hold the core to the box - they don't come close to holding the core tight.  Luckily I found the receipt so I can return the core, but wanted to post on here to see if anyone else has had a similar issue.  The core I took out was not original - it was replaced in 1983 according to the warranty sticker on it.  Maybe it's the wrong size?   Or maybe I should get new brackets for the new core?  If I do get a different one, any thoughts about where I should order from?  

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (2/16)
 2/25/12 10:41pm
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There is one core air conditioned cars and one for non A/C...maybe the problemQuestion



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Re: heater core dimensional problem (3/16)
 2/26/12 4:01pm
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Thanks, that could be the problem but I just took it back to Autozone and they checked the PN for with A/C and it's the one they sold me.  I'm wondering if the brackets that I have that are wrong.  The parts guy was telling me it's typical that the brackets should have spring clips in them to take up the slack for different sizes.  Does that sound correct to anyone?

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (4/16)
 2/26/12 5:20pm
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Sounds like a good answer to me!!  I will believe anything until I prove it wrong!!
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Re: heater core dimensional problem (5/16)
 2/26/12 10:25pm
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After some more research, I think the one I bought from Autozone is just plain wrong.  The core for non A/C cars looks totally different.  I took the Autozone one back and ordered one from Napa - should be here tomorrow.  Napa lists the dims on their website and this one looks correct.  I'll confirm after I get it.  

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (6/16)
 2/27/12 4:29pm
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Hey Dave. I own a rad shop. Yes a 76 heater core w/ac is completly different from one wo. They are both 2 1/2 thick but pipes are completely different. The aftermarket number I have is either 2-262 or 39-9081. Hopefully by now you have the right one. If not let me know if I can help. T

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (7/16)
 2/28/12 1:44am
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Got the dashout do not forget to replace all of the lights.  Now is the time. I have a place that sells lights for a fraction of what the autoparts places can.  They also mail first class and you only pay postage.  
 
Then I stumbled on to this site http://www.memotronics.com .
They are an electronic geek parts store that carries automotive lights. The 194 lights used in the dash are only $.23 with brand name  GE for only $.44.  
 
Shipping is reasonable also and because lights do not weight a lot they mail them first class most of the time.
 
That means you will get them in 3 – 4 days. 
Re: heater core dimensional problem (8/16)
 2/28/12 2:20am
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Terry - thanks much.  You confirmed exactly what I suspected.  I didn't make it to Napa after work today, but I'm reasonably confident that it will be the correct 2 1/2" when I pick it up.  

Gilbert - 194?  I definitely plan to replace all those lights that are currently draped all over the steering column and elsewhere, but I haven't counted that many.  Maybe '82's have a bunch more than '76?  SmileSmile  Seriously, thanks a lot for the tip.  I've been wondering where I could order those bulbs in bulk - guess I know the answer now.  

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (9/16)
 2/28/12 10:20pm
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Dang - picked up the Napa core today and it's the same as the Autozone - 2" thick, not 2 1/2"!  I think they're from the same supplier.  Looks like I have two options: 1) order one from one of the 'Vette suppliers (for double the $$ and still no guarantee it's correct) or 2) figure out a way to use the thinner core.  I could get some different brackets or find a way to take up the slack using my existing brackets.  If there were some springs I could stick in there that'd be perfect, but they'd have to be pretty specialized.  Any thoughts?  Thanks, Dave

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (10/16)
 2/28/12 10:45pm
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Hey Dave. I wouldn't use the 2" it won' seal right, besides you shouldn't have to. I will see what I can come up with when I get to work tomorrow. If you want send me a pm with your. Ph. # and I'll give ya a call. T

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (11/16)
 2/29/12 12:40am
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Thanks, Terry!  I'll PM you now.  

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (12/16)
 2/29/12 1:55pm
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daveo76 said:Gilbert - 194? 

Dave


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194 is the bulb part number...not the number of bulbs in the car....tho it may be close!Thumbs Up


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Re: heater core dimensional problem (13/16)
 3/1/12 12:45am
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Oh, that makes more sense.  Embarrassed  I looked at two or three of the dash bulbs in my car and they were marked with GE 1895 -- and that's what I ordered from Gilbert's website.  Hopefully they're equivalent?  

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Re: heater core dimensional problem (14/16)
 3/3/12 1:20am
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I think the heater core drama is over - bought one from ebay yesterday morning and it came today!  It's the correct 2 1/2" thick and was actually a few $ cheaper than the Napa one.  Vendor name is AutoPartsDirect2You and the brand is VistaPro/Proliance.  Seems to be about the same quality as the other two I purchased previously.  Now I just gotta put everthing back together again.  

Thanks again for the advice, especially to Terry (My7T1) who actually called me to discuss.  Pretty cool!


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Re: heater core dimensional problem (15/16)
 3/3/12 9:47pm
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Pretty good article hear I used when doing mine.
 I do remember one or two vacuum line I almost forgot to put on. It would have been difficult to put on later.


http://www.amosauto.com/Articles/Corvette/Tech/fixing-a-leaking-corvette-heater-core


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Re: heater core dimensional problem (16/16)
 3/5/12 12:33am
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Thanks, Ray!  Helpful article....

Dave


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