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4 speed Hurst shifter install (1/23)
 5/19/13 9:05pm
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I have the borg warner super t 10  how  do I bolt the hurst shifter on trans?  Do I need some kind of bracket or will it bolt right on?  This is on the 80 vette

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (2/23)
 5/20/13 9:11am
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First, you'll need to determine if the trans tailhousing HAS provisions to bolt on a shift bracket. Since the Shark cars had shifters that actually mounted to the trans crossmember, some tailhousings may not have the bolts holes required for mounting a shifter bracket. That being said, many cars did have Hurst(or other aftermarket brand) shifters installed. Make sure you have the bolt holes in the tailhousing, and if you do, then be sure to get a shifter that has the mounting brackets required.

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (3/23)
 5/20/13 12:19pm
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I did not know they had many trams missions for the 80 . I did notice it had to screw mounts toward the rear. now I have To find out what bracket I should use

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (4/23)
 5/20/13 3:15pm
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Here's some pics of a Muncie trans with a Hurst CP shifter, to give you an idea of what the bracketry looks like. Your BW Super T10 will be the same.



http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/aapple2/Misc%20pics/350%20Trans/4speed%20stuff/link.jpg





http://s77.photobucket.com/user/aapple2/media/Misc%20pics/350%20Trans/4speed%20stuff/shft.jpg.html?sort=3&o=7


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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (5/23)
 5/20/13 4:31pm
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If I remember correctly on my '81, the shifter did bolt onto the crossmember. '80-'82's used the same crossmember.

I may even have some of those parts laying around someplace.


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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (6/23)
 5/23/13 7:39am
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Adam my shifter looks just like yours except it has a dog leg lever closest to trans. Yours looks like my oem shifter levers.  If i get the correct bracket will it fit?  The rods that I have on my car now are all adjustable, I changed the a good while ago. Can I do this with the trans still in the car?

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (7/23)
 5/23/13 9:50am
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You can change the shifter with the trans in the car, but it is a major pain...unless you have small hands. The original shifter is tough to get out, since the handle is not removable. You'll of course have to remove the ball & reverse lock-out linkage on the handle, and both of the shift boots. Take all of the linkage off the trans and shifter, then all of the bolts holding the shifter to the trans crossmember....and then wiggle, snake, twist, turn, and say a few(many, actually) choice words to get the shifter out.
You should be able to buy the correct adapter plate for the Hurst shifter from one of the mail order parts places, like Jegs, or Summit....possibly even one of the Corvette parts vendors, such as one of the forum Sponsors here. If not, try Kajun Jon ...he will probably have what you need. Thumbs Up


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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (8/23)
 5/23/13 10:56am
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I was told by Hurst that the only shifter that will fit my car with out modification was the  discontinued 3910028  he said the other shifters wont work. Does any body have a 80 with a hurst shifter? and what kind do they have  and what install kit

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (9/23)
 5/23/13 1:05pm
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The trans in the pics I posted earlier is in a '71 Corvette that belongs to another member here(I took those pics after I had rebuilt it).
 Don't know why there would be a difference in the '80/'81 that would keep you from using the same shifter.... Question

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (10/23)
 5/23/13 5:16pm
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Well in this case dont asked the experts ask  the guys on the c3 forum.  Found out that my shifter will work, after research and talking to a different guy at hurst shifters.  They cross ref my number 3915405 and found out it was the same shifter as 3910028 only difference the 0028 is with a handle. The mounting bracket is what I have to get and the  linkage.  The made me think if I did not have the 3910028 that is discontinued I was out of luck nothing else would not fit with out modification.

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (11/23)
 5/23/13 7:33pm
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 Hi Frank, you sure had me worried buddy. I bought the Hurst shifter several years back just before my cancer and never got to put it on yet, so after reading your post I dug in to the garage to check the part #. Yep, it's 391-0028 and the install kit is 373-8621 (HUU 373-8621). It's hard to believe that they would discontinue an application without a substitute. I'd sure like to hear how the install goes for ya. I've got a buddy that owned an auto shop that claimed they were a "PITA" but he didn't make clear what he meant. Great lookin' body on that Vette Frank. Keep us posted my friend.

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (12/23)
 5/24/13 1:09pm
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Will I am stuck in a rutt at this time.  I have to find out how I can get the adapter plate. The kit 3738621 has that plate. I can not find a plate anywhere.  That plate is very important it sets the shifter closet to stock. I I had a template I would make one.  I would need pictures thickness of plate and template.  everything else you can buy. Oh you have to find the reverse arm

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (13/23)
 5/24/13 1:12pm
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Jimmy you have a gold mine to me. You have what I need.

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (14/23)
 5/24/13 9:08pm
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 How can I help Frank ?

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (15/23)
 5/25/13 1:25am
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Do you know where I can find a bracket like you have or a kit?

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (16/23)
 5/25/13 2:59pm
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 I've been looking for part # 195-0148 which is the mounting plate with about a 1/2" spacer welded on, but the page for replacement parts seems to be down or gone. I'm working on my brakes today but I'll get some pics and scan and copy the parts breakdown and post it today sometime. I've been depending on the Vette to get around so I've got to finalize repairs and get them bled out before changing directions. I'm not that fluent at info or pic transfers but once I get tha car done I'll keep trying 'til I get it.

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (17/23)
 5/26/13 11:27am
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 Frank, I can't think of anything harder that to transfer a document or pic to this site. I've been working on this for hours. I don't even know how I achieved this, but that is what we're looking for. I'll try again tomorrow.

Hurst Shifter Bracket


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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (18/23)
 5/26/13 12:34am
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I have been looking and  looking trying to find one.  If I get my hands on one  I will make you a template. You might can get one made.  If you can get some good pictures of on front and back.

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (19/23)
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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (20/23)
 5/26/13 1:39pm
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 Thank you Joel for for your help with the pic. This is harder than working on the vettes for me. It literally takes me hours to accomplish what would seem to be the simplest things.
          Frank, I have to take my daughters wedding dress to her for a fitting today (100 mi. away), but I promise to get right back on it when I return late tonight.
  That spacer looks correct even though it's not welded to the mounting plate. The plate looks a little large. I'll take a pic with the measuring tape like the one you posted. I'll take more pics and try again later.


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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (21/23)
 5/27/13 3:54pm
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Not sure exactly how it happened, but this thread got locked somehow. It is now open for bidness again. Sorry guys...I may have clicked on the wrong button without knowing it....Embarrassed

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (22/23)
 5/27/13 4:27pm
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 Thanks for your help. I sincerely thought I must have offended someone or sumpin'.

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Re: 4 speed Hurst shifter install (23/23)
 5/27/13 10:16pm
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Say jimmy what ever you send me will be fine. I need to get that adapter plate fast. I'm going to take my transmission out

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