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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (4/14)
 8/17/10 9:49am
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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (5/14)
 8/17/10 3:06pm
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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (6/14)
 8/17/10 3:20pm
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I have a 350 crate motor with edelbrock carb, computer is unplugged.  The car was running fine. Then I put the center console(no guages) back together and the problem started. I thought I grounded something, especially when I heard the relay start buzzing as soon as I tried to start the car.  I unplugged the relay, checked for a short or ground that i may have caused(couldn't find anything) and now I get nothin'.  I'll probably check to see if it'll start by jumping the starter.  We'll see.
 
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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (7/14)
 8/17/10 6:53pm
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Check the conection under the counsole. Is not hte nuetral safy sw connection there? that would keep pwr from the starter solonoid and prevent the starter from engaging
Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (8/14)
 8/17/10 7:27pm
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Bob, I thought of that.  I had both nuetral safety switches go on me on the Camaros we restored.  I'll probably change this one out just as a matter of "do it now or rip everything apart and do it next week."LOL
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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (9/14)
 8/21/10 10:28am
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***I've got 9.4 volts at the battery, not great but with a charger/jumper on it i know I should have enough power going to the starter.  I jumped the starter with a screwdriver while attached to the car, maybe I can get it started that way and she spins but the bendix spring won't engage. At least that is what it sounds like.  So, bad starter but that doesn't explain why the starter won't run when the key is turned. I am getting power to the windows when the key is turned but they quickly drain the battery.  With tranny in nuetral same response.


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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (10/14)
 8/21/10 11:55am
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So you're saying the starter will not crank the engine? That info was missing from the original post...
9.4 volts won't do it, as you know. With a charger hooked up, and the battery at full charge tho, it should. Depending on which terminals you "jumped", you can either just spin the starter motor, OR engage the solenoid to pop the bendix out while the motor is spinning. When jumping to crank the engine, you need to connect the large center terminal with the smaller terminal closest to the engine block. This will both spin the starter motor, AND engage the bendix. If you jumper to the lower terminal of the solenoid, the one that has the small bolt holding it to the starter motor, it will spin the motor, but not engage the bendix.
You should also check to see if you have a full 12v at the purple wire on the solenoid while trying to start with the key. If you don't have a solid 12v there with the key in "Start", you have either an ignition switch, neutral switch, or wiring problem.
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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (11/14)
 8/21/10 7:25pm
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[QUOTE=Adams' Apple]So you're saying the starter will not crank the engine? That info was missing from the original post...hth
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Details, details, details.  Joel, you are right on all counts. The starter is working.  Still won't crank the engine but I believe it is the low voltage.  I will be charging the battery overnight and check it in the morning.  I bypassed the safety neutral and still got nada.  As far as wiring, I haven't changed aything since I started it up a couple of weeks ago.

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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (12/14)
 8/21/10 10:36pm
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Kinda sounding like yer battery may be the real problem. How old is it? A "bad" battery, or one that might have a shorted out section inside can keep from having enough voltage to start the car, even with a charger/booster hooked up....

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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (13/14)
 8/23/10 6:06pm
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Battery is only 6 weeks old but the car hasn't been running so I'm gonna swap it with the battery in my daily driver.  If I have a problem with it while it's in there then I know it's the battery.
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Choke Heat relay?**UPDATE** (14/14)
 8/23/10 8:15pm
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Have you thought of a bad bendix? I have seen the sprag on the gear bad..what about the shims..anyone check to see if the gears line up on the flywheel and starter gear? What about the ground or power to the starter?
Rich

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