Hello all. I do apologize for the length of this post.
Well, Baby left me stranded for the first time ever this week. I got off shift a little after sunset and she started up just fine. I pulled out the light switch and proceeded to set up the radio for the ride home. I have never had to crank and crank the starter. She has started with just a burrup and gone through the warm up idle routine. In the 82 the engine goes up between 1200-1400 rpm for a short time and then starts a slow decrease in rpm to idle which is around 600-700 rpm. I've been slipping her into gear anywhere under 800 rpm or so. It takes a minute or two to get under way.
This time I did the regular start-up and as soon as I nudged her into reverse the motor just stopped. It was like turning off the key except the check engine and battery light came on. I immediately shut off the lights and cranked her again. This time no hint of ignition but, she cranked freely and I continued for 10-15 seconds. I let the starter sit for a few seconds and cranked again – still nothing. I raised the hood and looked around for anything unplugged and found nothing out of the ordinary. I could smell gas so I knew the fuel pump was working and when I got back in and tried again, I could hear the pump run for a moment to pressurize the system as it should before start.
Near the end of the third long crank,
10-15 seconds, I noticed the starter speed slowing. I decided to
pull the distributor cap and take a look at the rotor, cap and HEI
coil. I noticed that the wiring harness was loosely connecting from
the base of the distributor to the internally mounted coil. One side
of the connector snap was broken off. That is where the B+ and the
pulses get routed so it is a very good chance that there
is where the ignition problem lies. It is a mute discussion for the time being.
So I reassembled everything and snugly plugged in the connector and tried cranking again. Here is the rub. I just got a ca-thunk from the starter and no cranking of the engine. I just concluded that the battery had died and waited for my wife to pick me up. I would try a few things before calling AAA in the morning. Same thing happened in the morning. Ca-thunk and no crank so, a nice guy from AAA carefully loaded Baby up on a flat bed and brought her home and between the two of us we got her in the garage bay.
I charged up the battery and now all I get is Ca-thunk. I have lightly tapped on the starter housing and no change. I remember that trick from an old MOPAR thing I had briefly in the 80s. The conclusion I'm coming to is I managed to break a perfectly good 30 year old starter. I checked my paper work and it does not show the starter ever being replaced. I have read most everything on this site about the starter replacement and mini versus a rebuild and the thoughts on the starter shields.
I did find the connector and harness in stock on Rock Auto and decided to install a newer more robust Spark Module while I was in there replacing the harness.. Those are on order and should be here by the end of the week. Does not matter much since I can't crank the engine.
So, my questions are on the starter. Plenty of clean oil in the engine and when she stopped I did not hear any grinding or clunks. She did crank three times very smoothly before I apparently killed the starter. I do not think the engine is seized. I have read about putting a Ford starter in but, I would rather not do that. I'm checking where locally I could have it rebuilt if it is not the attached solenoid. It sounds like the throw out action is functioning. The sound of a motor under load can be heard as I briefly hold the switch in the start position.
Keith
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