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break-in oil/additive (1/15)
 3/9/10 9:15am
manchestersharkLifetime Member
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 Anybody have opinions as to the type/kind of break-in substance for a re-build. Joe Gibbs oil is what I have.  Do I use 5 qts of this or 1 and add 4 other qts of quality oil? Is the additive in pints better? I am told as long as the ZINK and PHOSPHEROUS is in there thata all I need for break-in. I am also told that ROTELLA DIESEL oil has all content of chemicals needed. Can I mix the Gibbs oil with Rotella with out a problem?    THANKS  Mark

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break-in oil/additive (2/15)
 3/9/10 9:20am
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My brother's shop typically breaks in their engines with diesel oil. Never blowd one up yet!!
break-in oil/additive (3/15)
 3/9/10 11:35am
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Those oils should mix just fine. I believe all oils are reasonably compatible but, they used to warn against mixing synthetics with conventional oils, but I don't believe that's even a problem anymore. "I'M NO EXPERT". I've always used my own recipe of oils and additives and after 20 yrs. my motors still hardly use oil. In fact I've never retired a vehicle because the motor was worn out. Usually the electronics begin to act up and I can't diagnose relays, senders and computer stuff so I give up on the car.

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break-in oil/additive (4/15)
 3/9/10 12:27pm
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Alot of people used to use diesel oil because of the zink phospherous additive but the mfg's removed it, also diesel oil doesn't have high rpm additives because diesels don't turn high rpm, all regular motor oils has had the zink- phos. removed because most new motors have roller cams  and don't need the high pressure  additive of zink, also zink gums up the oxy sensor's, for a flat tappet new motor break in I recomend a good 30 W detergent motor oil with a can of GM engine Oil Suppliment Pt#1052367, for the run in, if you have a high cap. pan add two bottles of EOS, change the oil after a couple hundred miles and add a bottle or two of "ZDDPlus" zink-phos. additive one bottle treats 5 Qt's, synthetic motor oil is NOT a good break in oil, its too slick of an oil it runs off the parts too fast for break in, after break in  its ok.  anips2010-03-09 09:40:53
break-in oil/additive (5/15)
 3/9/10 1:00pm
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I agree with "anips" on everything except for one thing. I'd use 10W30 oil. It's just my opinion but it will reach the smaller crevis's more thoroughly for the break-in period. Good luck with it, and by the way, your pic of your Vette looks great. I really like that color combo.
break-in oil/additive (6/15)
 3/9/10 1:11pm
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10-30 is good
break-in oil/additive (7/15)
 3/9/10 4:59pm
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 Smile  MANY   THANKS  to  ALL who added thoughts.    Mark

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 3/9/10 10:25pm
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break-in oil/additive (9/15)
 3/12/10 1:34pm
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Good Afternoon All,
                If I may interject my thoughts on the break in oil and procedure. I build engines almost daily and start them on my engine start up stand unless the customer starts it up,albeit follows my procedure.
                I use 10w30 Castrol or some other quality oil for the seasoning of the cam/lifters and run up @2400 rpm for 24 minutes.When this run is completed and the run timing is set,make carb adjustment for continuing running, I dump the oil and water, ship out the engine to the customer for installation, or he proceeds to the next step which is, add fresh oil and filter that he/she would use in the area they are located,i.e. Florida 10w30,10w40, or wherever they may live and their brand preference.Colder areas require different weights to compensate for the weather.They would run this oil for 400-450 miles and dump oil and filter then you can go to synthetic if you desire.
       I have spoke to Castrol and others who offer synthetic oil and they have no reservations going from typical oil to synthetic oils.There is no question regarding 'roller lifter's,as there is little or no friction where the lack of zinc is a problem.Most of the typical oils still have zinc in the formulation.I have and continue to use 10w40 Castrol oil for at least 25 years or more in my vehicles without a problem.  
        Have a great day and good luck....
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break-in oil/additive (10/15)
 3/13/10 9:41pm
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I only use Rotella T in my rebuild, it has the minerals for the old small block, zinc & phosphorus.  Don't believe what you read on the internet.

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break-in oil/additive (11/15)
 3/13/10 11:52pm
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Didn't read it on the internet, saw it in Hot Rod and other auto publications, if it works for you , great, but because big rigs are soon to be smogged  and have to run oxy sensors like gas  engines Rotella probabley will not have it for long, Zink Phos ruin the sensors after  a while, and because diesel oil doesn't have anti forming agents for high RPM operation acording to publications  can cause oil pump cavitation which can starve the motor for oil at rpm. 
break-in oil/additive (12/15)
 3/14/10 2:41am
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Maybe Bob the oil guy's link will help to shed some light on the subject.

For the record I use Rotella..... at least for now. If it goes belly up then it will be 10w40 valvoline and Lucas Oil or Red Line additives.

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break-in oil/additive (13/15)
 3/14/10 11:23am
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[QUOTE=anips]Didn't read it on the internet, saw it in Hot Rod and other auto publications, if it works for you , great, but because big rigs are soon to be smogged  and have to run oxy sensors like gas  engines Rotella probabley will not have it for long, Zink Phos ruin the sensors after  a while, and because diesel oil doesn't have anti forming agents for high RPM operation acording to publications  can cause oil pump cavitation which can starve the motor for oil at rpm. [/QUOTE]
I don't race my car.Shocked  I drive it normally and I keep my foot out of her (I don't want a ticket & I don't want to tear it up).  I'll keep the Rotella T with the meat sauce..........LOLLOL

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break-in oil/additive (14/15)
 3/14/10 11:58am
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I drive my car like the classic it is to, but for those who like to wring the motor out it could cause a problem, when people are comfortable with what they do and theres nothing wrong with that, its sometimes hard to convince them otherwise, take me for instance, for years I've been useing cloths soap in my dish washer, I find that my paper plates come out with less wrinkles and they smell good to..................Rolling On The Floor Laughing anips2010-03-14 09:31:14
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 3/14/10 2:15pm
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To all interested
     Below is a site that has 4 or 5 independent test of the Royal Purple brand of synthetic oil.They are about 3-5 minutes each.I do not sell or promote any of these or other oils,however the test are impressive inasmuch as increase of HP and torque along with the reduction of friction.
                        http://www.royalpurple.com/rp-videos.html
      Very interesting test video's
      Have a great day.
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