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Need some help identifying carburetor (1/11)
 10/17/10 4:51pm
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Took the carb off of "The Toy" to see if I could find a rebuild kit for it.  The couple of parts houses I went to could not find any listing for it.  It is a Holley spread bore (I know - it is supposed to have a Q-Jet) that was on there when I bought the car.

Here's all the numbers/codes I could find on it:

Front bowl:
  Top -     7235
                  3
 
  Bottom -    34R  2178B
                           S
 
Rear bowl:
  Top -   8521
                3
 
  Bottom -        1
                34R - 2773B
 
 
Top plate:    6210-3
                    1659
 
 
Bottom plate:
  Left rear corner -   49264   and a donut like stamping with 97 in the middle
 
  Right rear corner -   12R - 5396B
 
  Bottom -   7222  4
 
 
Body: 
  Right rear corner -   6R - 4713B
 
 
Any ideas what model number this could be?  If noone has any clue I guess I'll have to get in touch with the kids at Holley.
 
Thanks!
 
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Need some help identifying carburetor (2/11)
 10/17/10 5:36pm
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Is there no number on the top/front of the choke tower?
I'll dig out my trusty old Jiffy Kit catalog...might be a reference in there, unless the carb is fairly new. The "donut like stamping with 97 in the middle" sounds like the year of manufacture to me, which means my book won't have that in it.

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Top plate:    6210-3" looks like a normal Holley number...


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Need some help identifying carburetor (3/11)
 10/17/10 8:37pm
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That's all the numbers/codes I could see on the darn thing.  At purchase time (April, 2000) I was told that the engine had been recently gone through but the dealer didn't have any more info than that.  So if "97" is indeed the year of manufacture it is within the realm of possibility that was when the engine was gone through.


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Need some help identifying carburetor (4/11)
 10/19/10 10:48am
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Jim;

Check with the Carburetor Shop.  2277 White Bear Avenue (just south of HWY 36), 651-770-3505.  I am sure if you take them the carb, they can identify it for you. 

Larry
Need some help identifying carburetor (5/11)
 10/20/10 8:31pm
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Thanks Larry.  I have driven by that place when over to the North St. Paul History Cruise.  It is a heck of drive over there from my place so may have to call them as "The Toy" will be going off-site soon.

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 10/20/10 11:58pm
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Hey Jim, this is a link to another "forum" that has an exploded diagram of a holley, pointing to the spot that is supposed to have the carb number... i know you said you looked, but sometimes those numbers can be faintly stamped...  this guy was having the same problem, but did find 8700 stamped there(can read the posts there :)  good luck!!
 
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Need some help identifying carburetor (7/11)
 10/21/10 9:07pm
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Thanks Jimmy.  The circled spot on that diagram is where I found the Top Plate numbers I listed.  Both parts places I went to couldn't find those numbers in any Holley books.  Got some more investigating to do I guess.

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 10/21/10 10:20pm
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The Holley 6210-3 is basically an emissions-legal replacement for the Quadrapuke. The Holley part number/ID is 4165  The Holley  is smaller than a Q-poop, being only 650 cfm. As such, it is jetted lean for use on a stock vehicle, and it uses #60 jets on the primary side with #83 jets on the secondary, with an #8.5 power valve.
Jim, try seeing if they can get a kit using the 4165 number....they might be able to reference that. I knew that the 6210-3 was the right list number. They should be able to use a Holley "list" # for a kit,,,don't know why they can't, unless you're dealing with guys like I do sometimes, where you have to tell them what color the car is just to get a dang oil filter...


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Need some help identifying carburetor (9/11)
 10/22/10 7:22pm
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[QUOTE=Adams' Apple]The Holley 6210-3 is basically an emissions-legal replacement for the Quadrapuke. The Holley part number/ID is 4165  The Holley  is smaller than a Q-poop, being only 650 cfm. As such, it is jetted lean for use on a stock vehicle, and it uses #60 jets on the primary side with #83 jets on the secondary, with an #8.5 power valve. ...[/QUOTE]
 
 
You Google-meister you...!!!  Wink  I found that today also.  Did a little more web-crawling and found this:
 

Carburetor Part #

Carb Model #

CFM

Renew Kit

Trick Kit

Primary Venturi Diameter

Secondary Venturi Diameter

Primary Throttle Bore Diameter

Secondary Throttle Bore Diameter

0-6210-3

4165

650

37-605

37-933

1 5/32"

1 3/8"

1 3/8"

2"

 
 
I'm assuming "Renew Kit" is a different term for rebuild kit. 


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 10/22/10 10:23pm
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The "Renew" kit is a basic O/H kit, with gaskets, needle/seat(s), and the rubber stuff. The "Trick Kit" used to come with extra stuff like power valves, and better materials for the needles/seats and gaskets, as well as some "Hop Up" tips.

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 10/25/10 5:37pm
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[QUOTE=VetteSpecialties]Jim;

Check with the Carburetor Shop.  2277 White Bear Avenue (just south of HWY 36), 651-770-3505.  I am sure if you take them the carb, they can identify it for you. 

Larry
[/QUOTE]
 
After trying a couple of other places on the west side of town and coming up empty I called the Carb Shop.  Read the numbers to him and he said "Yep, I have a rebuild kit in stock."  He also said not to bother with the trick kit - just a waste of money in his opinion as it has a lot of extra parts that would most likely never be used.  Now I just need to figure out when to get over there during his rather weird business hours.
 
Thanks!
 
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