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Fuel pressure issuses (1/14)
 2/9/15 4:59pm
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I have an electric pump (in the tank) and I have a carb which needs about 6.5 psi. I installed a regulator but the most pressure I'm getting is 5.5 psi. the regulator adjusting screw is in as far as it will go. Any thoughts on what to look for or any other options.

This is an '82 with a ZZ4 engine with a Holley 770, (no mechanical pump)

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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (2/14)
 2/9/15 5:34pm
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Is there any way to get a pressure reading with no regulator in line? Maybe the pump isn't putting out to it's fullest potential.

Does the car still run?


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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (3/14)
 2/9/15 8:56pm
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The car runs. I'd have to disassemble the regulator and get a  fitting to go from the AN-8 to a 1/8NPT to mount a gage. Would be a pain in the a__. I don't see that pump going from 55psi(stock) down to 5psi. When I can get to the underside I'm going to change out the filter, maybe that will help?

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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (4/14)
 2/9/15 9:03pm
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Dave, I know you did your engine upgrade quite some time back, did you change the pump at the same time?  The pump itself may indeed be your problem or if not replaced when you did the engine upgrade, the short hose section between the pump and output hard lines going to the engine.  If you still have the frame  rail mounted fuel filter, it may be worth a swap if its been a while since it was changed.

Update:You must have posted while I was typing.  From your reference to 55 psi you must have installed a C4 pump previously, probably when you were still running crossfire.  Id check the filter.

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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (5/14)
 2/10/15 12:50am
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Hey Chip how are you? Yes I have the '85 pump in there. I have to wait for a little warmth, since I have to move the car outside to get under it to change the filter.

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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (6/14)
 2/10/15 2:34pm
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Change the filter first, certainly. Thumbs Up
I would try to find a way to test the fuel pressure before the reg. at the same time, if possible. As was mentioned, the rubber-like hose on the fuel pump can split/crack, and cause a severe loss of pressure and volume, as could a collapsed "sock" filter on the end of the pick-up tube on the sender unit.
Also, a loose/corroded connection can lower the working voltage available at the pump, and slow it down.
Hope a filter takes care of it, tho. Big smile

One way to kinda-sorta test for a cracked rubber hose on the pump unit is to fill the tank full. When full, the hose will be covered, so the crack/split would be moot. If the pressure at your gauge goes up with a full tank, then that points to the rubber hose being bad.


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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (7/14)
 2/10/15 6:40pm
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Thanks for asking Dave.  Im doing well, just dont bet by the forum as often as I used to.  Still have my 82 and she is running fine.   Hope all my old friends here are doing well.  Ill try to poke my head in a little more often.
Re: Fuel pressure issuses (8/14)
 2/10/15 9:59pm
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Well it looks like I'll have to wait awhile for the weather to get better so I can change the fuel filter. I could put a gage on the rubber hose at the filter when I take off the old one. Can't get out to fill the tank because of snow & salt. I'll keep you up to date.

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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (9/14)
 4/14/15 7:16pm
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So I changed the fuel filter and set up the carb and all is well, timing is perfect, 15lbs. of vac, mixture right, and idle is set. Thumbs Up We are good to go!!!!!!!!
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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (10/14)
 4/14/15 10:21pm
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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (11/14)
 4/15/15 7:48am
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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (12/14)
 4/20/15 1:50pm
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Now I need to put new seals in my rear end (the car's that is).
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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (13/14)
 4/20/15 8:06pm
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DaveM said: Now I need to put new seals in my rear end (the car's that is).
Dave


We've been around you Dave, you might want to do both.

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Re: Fuel pressure issuses (14/14)
 6/27/15 10:46am
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Turns out the fuel pressure is still at 2psi, so I pulled the fuel pump out of the tank and found that the short hose from the pump to the steel line is split open. I got a new pump with all the new parts to go with it and put it all back together and now I have my 6-7 psi at the carb. Glad I got that done before the gathering, if the hose let loose altogether I would have NO fuel at the carb, not a good thing.


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