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New Carb? (1/12)
 8/20/08 1:22pm
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I think my q-jet has been rebuilt one too many times.  It still doesn't idle right when cold and still smells like gas most of the time.
I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and buy a new carb. 

I'm looking at a 650 CFM Holley 80555C.

I found it on Mid America Motorworks site for $499. So I thought I'd do the ol' Google search to see if I can find it cheaper. 
Interestingly, I found it on Amazon for $372!  The MAM prices must include the "Corvette Tax".

What are your thoughts on doing this replacement?  Is it a good idea? Will I find it easy? 
What about the fact that it has an electric choke vs. the current q-jet non-electric choke?  Do I need any special parts/adapters/etc for this change?

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 8/20/08 2:11pm
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Better yet knock $500. off the selling price and move that vette to desireme.
Then wait till that newSS Camaro comes outLOLLOL
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 8/20/08 3:25pm
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Unless one of the parts is warped, the carb can be fixed. Have you been rebuilding it yourself, or do you take it to a good carb shop and have it flow tested? I just had one done, tested, re-jetted, and new bushings for $200.
 
As far as the other question, the electric choke just needs a wire that is hot when the ignition is on, no big deal. The fit is what you will have to make sure of (intake), and the throttle cable/linkage. The other concern I would have is if the aircleaner will fit on the carb with the electric choke, some will, some won't. The guys at MAM should be able to tell you.
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 8/20/08 5:12pm
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The tech at a local rebuilder told me that unless the carburetor is physically damaged, there's no reason it can't be rebuilt properly. 

If you decide you want to replace the carb, the Holley spread-bore is a good choice...it's a bolt-on replacement.  If you keep the same intake, either that or rebuilding the Q-jet would be the way to go.  If you decide to change intakes, you'll have more options, but also have to spend more money.

Since Carlisle starts in two days, check around there and see what kind of deals you can get on that Holley there.  Maybe you can meet or beat the on-line costs.
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 8/20/08 5:18pm
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I put a Holley 650 on mine Adam. I rebuilt the Quad and could never dial it in. I also put it on a Edlebrock Performer intake. I had to use an adapter to change to manifold to a spread bore, but it was easy. As far as the choke I still use the stovepipe. From what I hear elec. isn't hard to hook up though. Anyway, my Holley works fantastic.Thumbs%20Up

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 8/20/08 5:22pm
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My q-jet has been rebuilt more times than I care to think about. Even once by our own Kstyer.  However, as my7T1 said, I can never "dial it in" and it just give me trouble all the time. I'd rather just replacing it with a new carb that is hopefully more reliable and even comes with an instruction manual!


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 8/20/08 5:35pm
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If that's the case I would look for a new carburetor.  I'd print a copy of that Amazon.com ad and price and take it along.  See if someone there will match it...you won't have to pay shipping costs. 

Worst case is you still have to order one and pay to ship it.

BTW - your original Q-jet is about thirty years old.  That speaks well for its durability, even if it has become worn and has been rebuilt several times.
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 8/20/08 5:45pm
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Adam,
If you replace the Q-Jet, hang on to it.
Someday you might want to use it again.
I had great results having my Q-Jet rebuilt by Jim McGowan at
I waited until the winter & shipped it out to him. He got it back to me in around 9 weeks or so.
 
P.S. He was recommended to me here on C3VR by Autom8r. 
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 8/20/08 9:25pm
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Adam, if I can get my hands on that car I can get adjusted to function properly.   It's not in need of replacement, just proper setting.  Problem is I could not do the fine tuning and adjustment without the running engine under the carb.   If you get a new one, you may have the same problem getting it set properly.
 
You need a good tech to adjust it, not a new carb.   For what you would pay for the carb, you could drive here.    Bonifide offer.
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 8/22/08 11:28am
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I installed an Edelbrock carb. (on top of an Edlebrock Intake) on my '81 and it works like a charm...
 
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 8/22/08 1:15pm
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[QUOTE=kstyer] Adam, if I can get my hands on that car I can get adjusted to function properly.   It's not in need of replacement, just proper setting.  Problem is I could not do the fine tuning and adjustment without the running engine under the carb.   If you get a new one, you may have the same problem getting it set properly.
 

You need a good tech to adjust it, not a new carb.   For what you would pay for the carb, you could drive here.    Bonifide offer.
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I have to agree with Ken first, and all of the others that suggested if it ain't bent, it's fixable. Since Ken has already gone thru it, I can safely assume it ain't bent. Very few rebuilt carbs will work properly without the proper fine tuning with a large mallet and a pry bar.
I'll bet there's more to it than just the carb adjustment, but I bet that'll make a big difference.

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New Carb? (12/12)
 8/25/08 2:38pm
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Somehting else to consider...
 
(stock) 81's use that horrible A.I.R. system for controlling emissions.  The system (supposedly, according to the owners manua) recirculates unburned emissions by grabbing them from the cat and pushing them into the exhause manifolds (hence the ugly plumbing).  The computer continuously monitors environmental conditions and electronically and automatically adjusts the carburate (air/fuel mixture) and the timing.  For this reason all of the adjustment screws on the carburetor are sealed and can not be manually adjusted unless the seals are drilled out and then adjusted by someone really competent.
 
When I originally removed the smog pump and cat. from my car, it ran okay, but never great.  It had better performance, but there were times when it seemed to hesitate a little.  This was apparently caused by the fact that the computer was making improper adjustments because half of the plumbing and electronics previsouly used to monitor exhaust (CO2) were gone.
 
My ultimate solution was a total disconnection of the A.I.R. system, which comprised of replacing the carb., intake manifold, exhaust manifod, ignition system, and exhaust.  It wasn't cheap, but it was well worth it.  I saved all of the removed components just in case I sell it someday and the next owner wants the car back to 100% original. I would never go back.  The car runs 100x better than before and sounds like a Corvette is supposed to.
 
Just my 2 cents. I'm no expert, and I could be worng, but I have no regrets.  The engine looks, runs, and runs better...
 
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