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Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (1/12)
 9/3/09 6:28pm
Fairlane514
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Anyone have an opinion on the Rochester quadrajet compared to the Holley spread bore replacement. I picked one up for free (Holley) and it has the divorced choke and mechanical secondaries. Just looking quickly, it seems the original air cleaner may not fit over it. 
I have a 70 BB.


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Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (2/12)
 9/3/09 9:47pm
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The quad is better for a street application.  The Holly better for the track.
 
The smaller primaries on the q-jet act as a smaller carb.  Carbs are more efficient at mixing fuel when the throttle plates are open.  The smaller primaries need to open more for the same power.  The result is the car will have better tip in throttle, better mileage, and better part throttle response with the q-jet.  WHen you do open it wide up, the total volume is there.
 
BUT the uneven bores deliver fuel slightly unevenly when wide open, and again due to size the huge secondaries respond to wide open just a bit slower.  This is not much, granted, but it will have an effect.  You can't tell the difference on the street, but on a track it can make a difference in elasped times on a strip or track.
 
Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (3/12)
 9/3/09 10:41pm
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Tryed one on my 427, didn' t like it, after a while put the Q-J back on,  at the same time I also change the cam and intake, couldn't tell if there was any performance benifit with the spread bore, if you are looking for a little more performance,  pick up a good duel plane alum. square flanged intake, you can run both Edelbrock or Holley carbs, yes the air cleaner fits.
Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (4/12)
 9/3/09 11:01pm
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i dont know anything about hollys,but i do know afb carter carbs last a long time and they are real easy to rebuild,a monkey can do it..i been running my carter carb for 9-years on my vette and 5 years when it was on my camaro...i finaly rebuilt it 2-weeks ago after all them years..edelbrok carbs are the same as carter..
Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (5/12)
 9/3/09 11:01pm
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As far as I know the only aftermarket intake that will fit under the hood (big block) is an Edelbrock Torker which is a single plane.

The Holley I have is their version of the quadrajet.......spread bore, I was just wondering if its any better than the Rochester as far as tuning etc.

Thanks for the responses!  


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Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (6/12)
 9/4/09 11:08am
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At the time Weiand had a dual  that fit under the hood don't know about now tho,  the spread bore tunes like a holley, easier to tune than a QJ, like float adj, jet change, like I said it didn't seem to give me more perf. over the QJ but it did use more gas, its a direct replacement, bolt it on see if you like it.  anips2009-09-04 08:10:36
Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (7/12)
 9/4/09 12:01pm
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My only addition to the discussion is ease of tuning.  You need to drain the gas and take apart a Holley to change jets, and you will probably do that several times before you get the best tune.  With a Q-jet, they lift out the top, and you can replace just the rods.  You also can tune cruise and open throttle by changing the step of the rods.

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Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (8/12)
 9/4/09 4:31pm
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I have never been to impressed with a Holly, maybe on the dragstrip wide open but not on the streets. Quaddrasquat has always been a good carb. I still have the original on my 72 and it does great.

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Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (9/12)
 9/4/09 5:01pm
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thats what nice about the QJ is the metering rods, they are tapered so your you have a smooth transision from low to high speeds, and the secondary opening is adjustable, helps with fuel mileage, whats scarey is lifting the top while on the motor, the screws, clips, springs, etc while working over the manifold air intake, holley you dont have to do that, QJ or Holley either way you have to pull something. 
Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (10/12)
 9/7/09 11:36pm
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I've had every carb and a bunch of cars.
I've always liked Demons and Holleys, but I've had good luck with Q-jets, too.
 
Lately though, I've gotten into my new carb- a holley 4165, basically a Q-jet replacement. I believe it's the best of both worlds. Mechanical secondaries just like the stock Q-jet (still have it).
But it's a bolt on deal- everything fits and functions like the stock Q-jet including the air cleaner, too. All wires, choke, and throttle cable is the same. No changes at all like most Holleys.
 
It is a spread bore too, so it truly is just like the Q-jet but you're able to tune it easier. I get way better mileage too than a stock Holley 3310.
 
Keep your foot out of it, literally it'll seem like a Q-jet and act even better with that initial response when the secondaries are kicked open. 
 
If you're looking for Holley tune-ability, with everything hooking up perfectly go with one of these- they're great. I highly recommend them. My is a 650 double pumper and even with an automatic car, it's the best carb on my 71 454 Vette.
 
   
Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (11/12)
 9/8/09 5:12pm
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Thanks,

This one is a 650 cfm ,4165 (I think) it has a 6210 part number.   Right now I'm having problems with the Qjet.........so I was considering trying the Holley.


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Rochester Qjet vs. Holley spreadbore (12/12)
 9/13/09 12:05am
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I initially switched my Q-jet out for a Holley 4175 spread bore (vac secondaries).  Main reason was that the Q jet needed new primary shaft bushings in addition to the rebuild so I sent it out for work. I had rebuild the holley (took my best guess on the power valve and jets) and retro fitted an electric choke.

Bottom line is that I wish I had never bothered.  I got the Q-jet back right away and with a little fine tuning on the jets and primary rods, the part throttle response was far superior to the Holley (even though I think the holley's jet were close).  Maybe with some more tuning, the Holley would have worked out better, but the only advantage I could see was that fuel was always at the ready with those big float bowls (car would always start on the first crank of the starter). 
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