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Has there ever been C3 COPO (1/17)
 8/17/13 4:06pm
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I posted this on Corvette Forum and got no reply.
I guy I spoke to who people say is an EXPERT on Corvette told me they had some COPO cars in 1978 and 1982. He is about my age 65+ and appears to have a good knowledge of the cars. I am TRYING to find the factory sticker for options on my 1978 that is what started the conversation.



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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (2/17)
 8/17/13 8:12pm
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Afaik, you can still COPO(Central Office Production Order) cars from GM. Can't say what, if any Shark cars were ordered that way, but I'd be willin to bet some were. It's a good question....I've never really even thought about it. Thumbs Up

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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (3/17)
 8/17/13 11:03pm
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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (4/17)
 8/18/13 1:59am
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Here is something about ZL1 COPO 2 made there way into Corvettes
 
Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (5/17)
 8/18/13 10:02am
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Speaking about the ZL1, Years ago I was visiting the Chevy Tonawanda, NY plant and they had a ZL1 sitting in the lobby on display.  The woman I went with mentioned I was staring at it and thought I might have been drooling a littleWink.  She didn't understand, not a car person.  Later, I heard that it was a shell and not the complete engine.
 
That being said, this is a great question and I would guess that the NCM would have an answer.


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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (6/17)
 8/18/13 11:04am
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The ZL-1 wasn't a COPO for the Corvette...it was a regular production option(RPO). Now...in the Camaro, it WAS more of a COPO.
The only thing that would pertain to the ZL-1 Corvette was the second one. The first known ZL-1 is the yellow one, very well known by all. The other ZL-1(only 2 were sold) is less known, but it was originally owned by a former member of C3VR, and is well documented, tho some self proclaimed  "experts" still discount it. Why? Because it has an automatic trans. John has the original paperwork, build sheet, everything proving the car is an original ZL-1. He ordered the car with an automatic because of the type of racing he was going to be doing with the car. He met with resistance from GM, but eventually got it built the way he wanted it. Was it a COPO car? Well...kinda sorta. He had to have someone high up in GM to authorize it, so in a sense, it was a COPO car. 

Some of you may remember seeing the car here....John sold it a few years ago, and the controversy still lingers over it, but it was, and still IS, one of the 2 ZL-1s sold.




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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (7/17)
 8/18/13 12:48pm
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Thank you. I am TRYING to find the build information on my 1978. Since I had a 1980 before this that did not handle well at all this one is like on RAILS. I punched it a got TWO nice even black Streaks for my $2.00 worth of gas. I will keep up the search and enjoying the car.



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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (8/17)
 8/18/13 1:18pm
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About getting the build sheet:
 
Hope this helps


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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (9/17)
 8/18/13 4:47pm
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dads2vette said: About getting the build sheet:
 
Hope this helps


Thanks for the lead Joined the NCM. BUT they only go back to 1981. Got our build and such for our 2003 50 th but no luck on the C3. It was a St Louis Car.



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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (10/17)
 8/18/13 6:21pm
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Oops, sorry about that George.

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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (11/17)
 8/18/13 10:19pm
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And mine has the wrong VIN build sheet... Cry

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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (12/17)
 8/18/13 11:45pm
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You can get a dealer invoice from these people. I think it is $50. I think they go back to 1977

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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (13/17)
 8/21/13 9:33am
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rraider1 said: You can get a dealer invoice from these people. I think it is $50. I think they go back to 1977

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Will try that. I was told by NCM

 I am sorry to have to tell you but the build records from the St. Louis Assembly Plant were never moved to Bowling Green, instead we have been told that all records were destroyed by GM.  We were told that at the time (late 1970s and early 1980s) people were not interested in the documents and the records were destroyed and not moved to Bowling Green.
 
I am sorry we cannot help you with this matter but if you have any further questions feel free to contact us.
 
Thank you for your inquiry and your support of the National Corvette Museum.


This was from Betty. We are just going to take care of the little things that we have found and keep going. Have not had the time to put the car on our lift yet to poke around under it.
 



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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (14/17)
 8/21/13 1:32pm
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There have been several folks that have found the build sheet folded up, and stuck between the rear strut rod bracket and the diff on the '78 cars...I'd sure be taking a look to see if it was in yours! A lot easier than pulling the tank down. Thumbs Up

As far as the St. Louis build records, some were prolly destroyed, but some were also burned up in a fire at the storage facility, as the legend goes....
Gm was not then, and is not now, in the business of keeping records for future archeologists...they're in the bidness of selling cars...the Bowling Green plant has records because it was computerized, so there wasn't a lot of actual paperwork to be stored...it's a lot easier to store digital data. 


btw...now that my curiosity is up, is there something about your car that you think may "different" from the "accepted" norm?



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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (15/17)
 8/21/13 5:11pm
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I received the dealer invoice on my 77 from the source I listed above. what is the different info from dealer invoice than that from the build sheet.
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 8/21/13 10:43pm
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Adams' Apple said: There have been several folks that have found the build sheet folded up, and stuck between the rear strut rod bracket and the diff on the '78 cars...I'd sure be taking a look to see if it was in yours! A lot easier than pulling the tank down. Thumbs Up

As far as the St. Louis build records, some were prolly destroyed, but some were also burned up in a fire at the storage facility, as the legend goes....
Gm was not then, and is not now, in the business of keeping records for future archeologists...they're in the bidness of selling cars...the Bowling Green plant has records because it was computerized, so there wasn't a lot of actual paperwork to be stored...it's a lot easier to store digital data. 


btw...now that my curiosity is up, is there something about your car that you think may "different" from the "accepted" norm?




Yes a couple of things.
1.Handles like my race car. FLAT, NO LEAN, Hang out the rear and it just is happy.
2.Comes of the line like shot out of a cannon. The race car is 650+hp and this one does lay you back a LOT harder then 230 hp.
3. Rear locks in and two EVEN black streaks.
Other than that a normal car.




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Re: Has there ever been C3 COPO (17/17)
 8/21/13 10:46pm
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rraider1 said: I received the dealer invoice on my 77 from the source I listed above. what is the different info from dealer invoice than that from the build sheet.


They sent me a free PDF on 1978 Special; Edition cars that has ALL the data locations and translation for what i MIGHT find. THANK you for the lead.
Invoice is as ordered BUILD SHEET is what was SHIPPED to the dealer. It is the marks and notes that tells the factory WHAT to put on the car.


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