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Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (1/17)
 10/13/13 6:47pm
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 My master cylinder seized up and I bought a replacement.  The new one came in and it doesnt match the old.  It also will no work with my current master cylinder.

now I have no idea whether the old ones are correct or fi the new booster is.

here are both

notice the mounting surface is completely different.

here is the old booster

and the new booster



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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (2/17)
 10/13/13 10:40pm
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Ben...can you look in the area I circled on this pic, and see if you can see the numbers? That will give us an idea of the year, and part number, so we can possibly confirm it's original application....




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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (3/17)
 10/13/13 10:59pm
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yeah ill look, ill have to wire brush the paint off.   This part is supposedly the same from 68-76..  can anyone look and see what shape theirs is?

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (4/17)
 10/14/13 7:25am
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I know the booster on my '74 is flat where the master bolts up, as your "original" is. Can't say I've ever noticed one that was sunken in, as the new on is. I'm also thinking some big blocks had a smaller diameter booster to help clear the valve covers....

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (5/17)
 10/14/13 11:51am
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it looks like they sent you the booster for 64 to 67 not the 68 to 76
Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (6/17)
 10/15/13 2:39am
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This style (sunken) is what willcox, corvette central and paragon all sell Those paragon does have a rebuilt original that look like my old one None of them seem to understand the difference between these boosters even though it is obvious

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (7/17)
 4/9/14 12:56pm
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I brushed the paint off that area and there is no part number


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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (8/17)
 10/15/13 10:38pm
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Dang...sure looked like they were there. There ARE numbers stamped on the front of that thing...somewhere....assuming it is an original Delco booster. If it is a reman, or aftermarket replacement, then all bets are off....Ouch

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (9/17)
 10/16/13 2:23am
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Can anyone post pictures of their booster from a 69

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (10/17)
 10/16/13 11:00pm
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Okay can so done post pictures of any boosters from 68-76??? I am tying to return the part and they are claiming it is correct.

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (11/17)
 10/17/13 7:39am
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Sorry Ben....I don't have any pics of mine...or anyone else's either, for that matter...Ouch
I'll look for something, tho...


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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (12/17)
 10/17/13 11:58am
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Here is a restoration page for a 1971
 
 
 
Here Is the Booster Picture
 
Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (13/17)
 10/18/13 11:28pm
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@ adamsapple
you should be able to tell which one it is just from a picture on the car.


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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (14/17)
 10/19/13 12:25pm
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I believe my '69 big block has the original booster. The only identifying number on it is near the vacuum port. It is either 4240 or 424D. I will add pictures as soon as I figure out how.

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (15/17)
 12/6/13 2:36am
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The MBM booster is a Delco reproduction....I've been told that it is a GM authorized replacement for the Bendix style booster originally fitted to some cars but I have no data on what years of corvette had the Bendix. Where is the incompatibility? Is there a gap or space between the new boosters push rod and the plunger on the MC? If this is the case and you were to order a new deep hole corvette style reproduction MC they will come with an adapter to fill that gap. Its about a 1" long round steel plug with a machined recess on one end (to fit the booster rod in to). The MC is designed for power and manual brakes. You use the spacer for power...no spacer for manual. I sell these parts but have not tackled the booster install on a corvette....yet. Will be converting to power brakes in the near future. Dave

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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (16/17)
 12/30/13 2:26am
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the bolt spacing for the master cylinder was wrong.  I would up getting a rebuilt original.
 
here is my latest update with very little progress this year.  I did remodel and expand my house and my side business made twice as much money in 2013 as it did in 2012.  This left little time for the corvette.
 
 


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Re: Correct booster for a 69 with power brakes (17/17)
 12/30/13 12:13pm
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Looks like you finally got the correct booster...waHOO!
It's getting closer Ben...a little at a time. Thumbs Up

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