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Front Coil Springs (1/12)
 5/25/13 10:08pm
KDADDY79
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Today my brother in law and I finally started in on the front end rebuild on my '79.
The coil springs that came with the Front End Rebuild Kit appear to be wrong.
                                                                                              First of all the tag on each of them says " '68 - '82 No A/C."
My '79 has A/C.
When compared to the original coil springs, the new ones are about 2" shorter.
And finally, the start/stop points on the new coil springs are different from the old ones. Looks like they won't sit in the upper and lower control arms correctly in the indentations that stop the coil springs from moving.
 
We ordered coil springs from a local vendor. They should be in by Tuesday morning.
 
What are your thoughts on the coil springs that came with the (VB&P) Front End rebuild Kit?
 
Kevin
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Re: Front Coil Springs (2/12)
 5/26/13 7:18am
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I would call VBP before using the local springs. With the different weights they offer the "w/o AC" tag could be a lighter weight for touring rather than performance. I can't say for sure. I replaced mine with VBP and went with the touring weight. Don't remember how the spring ends were but I do remember lining up the indent in the control arm and the top went into place as I tightened it up. Also, the new springs are alot shorter than the original factory ones. Easier to install and your ride height will be about the same. 
Re: Front Coil Springs (3/12)
 5/26/13 9:24pm
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Jeffm,
Thanks for weighing in.
Could it be that as the springs compress that they slowly spin or corkscrew which would then allow the stops to line up?
Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Re: Front Coil Springs (4/12)
 5/27/13 9:41am
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Check the springs carefully. See if one end has coils closer together than the other end. If so, those are "progressive" springs, and have a specific top & bottom. Have you tried installing them both ways?

Also, any time a spring is shorter, it will also be "stiffer". The diameter of the wire used to make the springs has a lot to do with stiffness, and a larger diameter wire allows a shorter spring to replace a longer, smaller diameter wire spring.

With all of that, if you have tried installing them both way, and swapping side/side, and they do not fit properly, then you should get in contact with the vendor....they may have sent you springs for another application by mistake.Ouch

Oh...the springs should not twist, or "corkscrew" as they are compressed. They might give a wee bit, but not that much.


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Re: Front Coil Springs (5/12)
 5/27/13 4:04pm
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Well, I made a few notes from what you guys said.
Tomorrow morning we're gonna get back to it and we'll see what happens.
I'll let you know.
Re: Front Coil Springs (6/12)
 5/28/13 11:09pm
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This morning we got back to work. The coil springs arrived from the local vendor with a tag that simply read "C3 Corvette". These springs were the same height as the ones from VB&P and the start / stop points were same, too. It appears that these springs, as well as those from VB&P, are a bit thicker than the taller stock springs we just removed from the '79.
 
It appears that the springs are not progressive and the tops and bottoms were the same. No obvious left or right side either.
 
I called VB&P and was connected to the tech support. The person there told me to just line up the bottom ends with the lower control arm stops and not to worry about the upper stops.
 
Using the VB&P spring, we went ahead and finished the driver's side as per the above instructions. This Saturday we'll do the passenger side.
 
Does this sound OK?


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Re: Front Coil Springs (7/12)
 5/29/13 1:10pm
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I'd go with what VBP says....run it!

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Re: Front Coil Springs (8/12)
 5/29/13 9:33pm
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Yeah. It seems like the after market folks want just a few springs to fit a wide variety of cars. That's my suspicion.
 
Hopefully no more problems and we'll get this finished soon! A few more Saturday afternoons should do it.
 
Kevin 
 
Re: Front Coil Springs (9/12)
 5/31/13 10:36pm
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What did VBP say about the springs being tagged for a non-A/C car?

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Re: Front Coil Springs (10/12)
 5/31/13 10:47pm
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The VB&P Tech said the Non AC springs would fit just the same and that the AC / Non AC designations really dealt with firmness of the springs.
Just a thought here, I've never seen a '79 that did not come from the factory without AC.
Re: Front Coil Springs (11/12)
 5/31/13 11:26pm
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I forgot that A/C became standard sometime in the late 70's.  If they're not A/C specific, I wonder why they put the non-A/C tag on them.   Confused

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Re: Front Coil Springs (12/12)
 8/31/13 11:28pm
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Took me long enough, huh?

After starting this project 3 months ago I was finally able to get it all finished yesterday. It seemed like everything life threw at me (not all bad) made it impossible to get down to my brother in law's shop to finish up.
 
The VB&P Front End Rebuild Kit is in! Rubber Bushings. I used Moog ball joints, though. Whew!!! What a bear of a job! Exclamation
Thank goodness for air chisels and a brother in law with lots of patience.
He dialed it in as best he could and suggested I put 700 - 800 miles on it before getting an alignment.
 
We put in a new radiator, too and I drove it home yesterday. Felt good to drive a C3 Vette again! The steering is nice and tight and the radiator holds its own. 
 
Unfortunately some lunk head hit the nose while it was parked there for so long. No idea who did it. We did'nt even know it had happened until a few days ago when we took off the cover. Ah well, that'll be on the "to do" list for next spring. For now I washed & waxed it and I'll just be driving it for the next 2+ months. Gotta put some miles on it!
 
Kevin 
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