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Steering Cylinder Pulses (1/7)
 2/6/17 10:53pm
Bluestreak
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72 Coupe.  Installed new lines, control valve and steering cylinder.  Bled system per directions that came with control valve.  Steering cylinder pulses or hammers when turning steering wheel, especially when to the left.  Have checked check valve in pump.  Thought the new control valve was defective, so installed another new one.  Still have same problems.  Any suggestions.
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Re: Steering Cylinder Pulses (2/7)
 2/6/17 11:45pm
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Haven't done mine yet but it sounds like there may still be air in the system somewhere.

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Re: Steering Cylinder Pulses (3/7)
 2/6/17 11:59pm
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Any suggestions here as to how to bled the system?
Re: Steering Cylinder Pulses (4/7)
 2/18/17 10:09am
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Bluestreak said: Any suggestions here as to how to bled the system?
Hi Bluestreak,
About the only way I know how to bleed this system is to put the front end on jack stands to free the tires off the ground, start the car, and steer the wheel left to right, stop to stop, a number of times and see if this helps. My experience has been; when any single Left or Right turning anomaly occurs, the problem points to the Control Valve. You've replaced it twice, right?
I wonder what would happen if, while on jacks and engine running, you adjusted that Control Valve to move the wheels Left and Right, from stop to stop, then balance, and then see if the problem still exists.
Is the Pump old, or been replaced?
 
There's not much to this system. Hope you find it and let us know.
 
Steve





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Re: Steering Cylinder Pulses (5/7)
 2/18/17 3:56pm
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Steevo said:
Bluestreak said: Any suggestions here as to how to bled the system?
Hi Bluestreak,
About the only way I know how to bleed this system is to put the front end on jack stands to free the tires off the ground, start the car, and steer the wheel left to right, stop to stop, a number of times and see if this helps. My experience has been; when any single Left or Right turning anomaly occurs, the problem points to the Control Valve. You've replaced it twice, right?
I wonder what would happen if, while on jacks and engine running, you adjusted that Control Valve to move the wheels Left and Right, from stop to stop, then balance, and then see if the problem still exists.
Is the Pump old, or been replaced?
 
There's not much to this system. Hope you find it and let us know.
 
Steve






+1 on Steevo's reply. Balance control valve with engine running and front wheels off the ground. Once balanced, then back and forth lock to lock to bleed while checking fluid level. It's possible that your pump is causing the pulse but I suspect the control valve. I've heard about a lot of issues with recent rebuilt units. Newer control valve castings are being knocked off overseas and do not have same quality/function as ones rebuilt with real GM core castings. Let us know if you find the issue.

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Re: Steering Cylinder Pulses (6/7)
 2/20/17 4:33pm
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Control Unit has been replaced twice with new, not rebuilt.  Steering Cylinder was replaced at same time with all new lines.  Old unit did not exhibit these problems.  Pump is about 30 years old.  Will try centering control valve and let you know is this helps.  Thanks for the reply.
Re: Steering Cylinder Pulses (7/7)
 2/20/17 4:36pm
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Control valve has been replaced twice with new unit, not rebuilt.  Steering cylinder was replaced at same time with all new lines.  Old valve did not exhibit any of these problems.  Will try and balance control valve and let you know results.  Thanks for the reply.
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