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71 Carpet install, why are there square cutouts behind seats? (1/29)
 5/30/11 4:55pm
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I've had an extra front set of carpet that came with the car.

It is the cut pile Deluxe style. I've had it on my office floor for a month, letting the wrinkles out while I'm finishing up the heater core and dash area.

Just went to trial fit the passenger side- there's a square chunk missing!

Then I went to several websites for carpet- their pics have the same square shaped cut out, just behind the seat.

This doesn't seem right, as it not only needs to cover the floor, but it also needs to have extra flap go up and be covered by the sill plate.

Am I crazy, why would this "chunk" be taken out from under the seat, just because it's not seen as much?
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 5/30/11 5:00pm
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Hole is most likely for a seat belt retractor under the seat.



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 5/30/11 5:12pm
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This isn't a small hole for seatbelts.
Every carpet I've installed never had seat belt bolts already cut out.

No, this is an 8" x 8" cut out (missing carpet altogether), towards the sill plate side. 
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 5/30/11 5:22pm
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71 Carpet install, why are there square cutouts behind seats? (5/29)
 5/30/11 5:29pm
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My 74 has a seat belt retractor in that area and a fiberglass cover that screws to the floor right over that area where your carpet is missing. My new carpets did not have hole cut out and I had to cut it out. What kind of seat belts do you have?

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 5/30/11 5:39pm
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They the original style, that are held in with the large bolt to the tranny tunnel and outside sill plate area. Not a "large" plate as you say. 

When I pulled out the stock ratty carpet, I kept most of it, as the factory underlayment was in decent shape (didn't reuse it though, went with the Eastwood Foil backed stuff).

If that's the case, then I need new carpet. Bummer.
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 5/30/11 5:41pm
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Checked the driver's side (still in my office)- it also is missing this area.

So, the former owner bought the wrong set? I haven't seen any sit asking about seatbelts.
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 5/30/11 5:49pm
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That is a definite possibility, or he cut the hole in himself for whatever reason. Maybe someone with a 71 can give you more insight as my 74 may not be the same. I have lap/ shoulder belt setup with 2 retractors for each side, with one under the seats and the other behind the seats on the rear wheelwells. I did not have to make my cutouts anywhere as near as large as the cutouts you show in your pic.

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 5/30/11 5:54pm
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To clarify, I have both the stock shoulder strap and the lap belts.
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 5/30/11 6:11pm
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I have a retractor under the seats which the belt comes out of the retractor, goes under a fiberglass cover attached to floor and extend up under the sill plates and the belt runs under a retainer to keep close to floor near sill. My new carpets did not come with any cutouts in the area you show which leads me to believe the previous owner cut them out. We just went through a tour at MAM at the Gathering and watched them make several sets of carpets and none had cut outs. If you have nothing that fastens to floor in this area then you have wrong carpets or modified carpets.

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 5/30/11 6:20pm
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I know the former owner well. He didn't cut them, that's how he bought 'em. I believe him, too. Kind of odd.

Guess I'm going to have to buy new carpet for the fronts (my back is fine)!

Anyone interested in this set of brand new carpets? They have the jute padding on the backsides. I also have to go with it a full set of foil/jute insulation.

I know this stuff ain't cheap, but I've already laid down the Eastwood, so I probably don't need this either. 
 
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 5/30/11 6:28pm
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I checked several sites for carpet and all pics do not show any cutouts.http://www.ecklers.com/corvette-front-carpet-cut-pile-for-cars-with-automatic-transmission-1970-1975.html

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Strange!! Well good luck figuring out your dilema!Confused

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 5/30/11 7:35pm
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There are 2 pics from my 72. You can see the covers for the seat belt retractors. Im not home till tomorrow but if you want I can take better pics because mine is still apart without the covers on. I have only the floor retractors as my 72 has no shoulder belt. I can also check my carpet when I get home to see if that area is cut out. Mine are from MAM, the performance choice cut pile.
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 5/30/11 9:29pm
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Definitely don't have those on the floor. 

And I have BOTH OEM lap belts and shoulder harness style.

Looking at the pics, I really didn't notice them at first. But after a second glance, I can tell. Thank you for the pics, it helps alot.

Still looks like I need to buy another carpet set. More $ again.


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Just throwing in a stupid question....you do not have the right and left mixed up do you? At the carpet install they said its some times hard to tell them apart. Even after 100's of carpet installs they lay the old carpet out on the floor just like it came out of the car then match up the new pieces.......just askin....

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71 Carpet install, why are there square cutouts behind seats? (19/29)
 5/30/11 10:19pm
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No, I have the driver's side in my office still- it has the foot/heel pad and high beam pad stitched in it. 

But that's not a bad way to think. Usually it's something simple. 
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 5/30/11 10:44pm
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Not 100% sure what year the retracting belts came into play...I know the '72-up have them. That cut-out is for the retractor assembly. The carpet must be trimmed out around it, or the plastic cover will not sit down right, and the seat would hang up on it.
Rather than order a new set of rugs, I would get some carpet that matches, and splice it into the cut-out area. The seat will cover 99% of it, so it's not like it would stick out like a sore thumb.
I got my rugs directly from ACC(Auto Custom Carpets), and they did indeed have to be trimmed to fit. I might even still have the pieces I cut out of mine...they are black...


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 5/31/11 12:27am
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Aaron, I have the three pieces that are for the rear compartments that Im not going to be using. They are light saddle but could be easily dyed black! maybe give your car extra character and leave them saddle!Rolling On The Floor Laughing Let me know if you need more pics.
We just got home so I could take them tomorrow night if you need.
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Joel has a good idea ... patch it in.
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I also have the three pieces for the compartment doors I never used... Adams' Apple2011-05-31 10:07:33

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[QUOTE=2nd2ja]Guess I'm going to have to buy new carpet for the fronts (my back is fine)!
Anyone interested in this set of brand new carpets? They have the jute padding on the backsides. I also have to go with it a full set of foil/jute insulation.
I know this stuff ain't cheap, but I've already laid down the Eastwood, so I probably don't need this either. [/QUOTE]
 
I have a '75 that rats were living in so there is no getting the smell out, I'll need to replace the carpet. So the big question is, if you choose to let them go, how much you'll need to get for them ? 


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By the way, the ones in my '75 have a large rectangle 6" x 12" missing in the same area. Looked like they were made that way.Confused

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 6/8/11 10:23pm
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I bought new ACC carpet fronts.

Thanks for all your generosity for the patch panels. I just don't want to deal with doing that.

Anyways, I want $50 for the fronts. I just received my ACC carpets, so I could roll these up in the same box.

I also have extra insulation/thermal barrier pieces, too. 

BTW, I started working on my seats, too (posting a new thread).
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Good deal!
I have a couple of spots in mine where I got mixed up on the old adage, and cut twice and measured once. I wound up just patching in from the leftover stuff, and you cannot tell where the spots are.
ACC is good stuff.


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Hey Aaron, funds are kinda tight here but, if you can give me a total including insulation and s & h I'm very interested.
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 6/8/11 11:34pm
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I'll put the carpet in the box, then get some dimensions and weight. 
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