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Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (1/13)
 7/16/12 2:29pm
Babyblue 78
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Well the dash covers off and it's ugly.And now trying to get the dash off. I have all the screws out and I know there are clips in the back and trying to get them free, everything else is in-hooked. I have the 2 bolts out for the steering wheel to drop but not happening. I thought the metal plate that the screws came out of would drop down and the steering wheel but it is not budging. Will try to post some pics but I guess I cannot go back now. I have not even thought about the heater core yet might just leave well enough alone, don,t want to mess with the ac evaporated either, doubt I will evere get or use the ac even if it works. Ok back to work, any nits on the steering or dash clips pass them along. BB 78

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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (2/13)
 7/16/12 3:38pm
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Most of this is off the old memory so if someone else come up with something different take notice.

You really do want to replace your heater core when you get your dash off. Even if you did not connect it up but bypassed it.  I would replace it.  It is easy enough to do with the dash off.  All the hard work is really done. 

I attached some drawings for both heater core and dash removal.  If you need a pdf I can email them to you just cannot do it through the forum as far as I know.

First and foremost keep the old dash you will want to use it to mark where the screw hole go for the dash gage and the center console as well as the glove box, and the placement of the side screws marked as number 3 on the drawing.

You must remove the front pillar plastic to get the dash off as far as I know and to get those off you have to remove the top and to get that off you have to remove the t-top center cover, etc.    Thinks are kind of put together like a puzzle.  

By the way the pillar plastic on passenger’s side (I had to purchase new ones as mine were broken) I had to file some metal off of the pillar to get the new one to snap on.  Not a lot but about a 1/32 along one side.    

Without a better idea of where you are at I cannot be much help.  I assume you took out the dash gages, the center dash console gage setup and the glove box. 

 By the way you will need to take of the retaining clips listed as “retainer B01-15” on the drawing.  They will be rusted on to the connector and will give you trouble with getting the dash off.

If I was closer I give you a hand it is a lot easier with two guys the new dash will have to be bowed a little to get it out as will the old one.

I'm getting an error when I try to up load an image.  I recommend you put up a Gmail or some email address on your profile as I will need to send these to you via normal email.  You can go to my profile if you like and send me an email.  Make sure to remind me what I'm suppose to do.  


Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (3/13)
 7/16/12 9:43pm
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Ok not sure about the t-top and dash connection. All plastic around the windshield is removed and everything else, other that cannot get the steering wheel to lower?. My email address is in my profile for anyone to send i nfo. Will be looking at it again tomorrow morning and give an update.I feel the clips at the back of the dash are rusted and holding it on.  Question when I open up the heater core box can I just replace that or am I getting involved with the ac evaporator also since I have air?, or can I just remove the core and replace and back together. Thanks
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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (4/13)
 7/17/12 10:32am
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Ok the dash is off!  the two clips were hanging up and I removed the clips and it fell right out!
 
 
 
Still the question why the steering column will not lower I must still be missing a bracket?
 
And second can I remove the heater core withlut messing up the ac evaporator since I have AC?  are theynot co-located where I need to attend to both if I open up the door?
 
Also are the bolts removed from the inside or the firewall/wheel well, have not looked close at it yet but I am assuming the bolts.nuts remove from the firewall and then slide the box out from inside.
 
Ok still decideing wheter to do the core, it looks good now but?????????????????????
 
later. BB78


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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (5/13)
 7/17/12 12:01pm
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As I remember mine did not lower a lot but did come down some.  I will look up the drawing on the wheel and send it along to you with the others.  By the way I just checked your profile and your email is still hidden even though you said you set it to show. 

I will sent it to the one that you PM's me with.
Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (6/13)
 7/17/12 1:10pm
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The steering wheel column can be lowered and removed after you have removed:
  1. The rag joint in the engine compartment.
  2. The two nuts and bolts at the firewall.
  3. The two nuts under the dash gages. 
  4. Electrical connections.

Yes, your upper dash pad looks beat, but the stuff below still looks pretty good.

I replaced my heater core in my '73 with A/C, and it didn't have anything to do with the A/C Evaporator.  I also used a hand operated vacuum pump(Mity-Vac) to check all the heater controls and found two leakers.  The whole heater assembly looks complicated, but once you get it off and on the bench, it all makes sense.  Take lots of digital photos before disassembly!

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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (7/13)
 7/17/12 1:28pm
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If you are going to upgrade your radio, this ios the time to change the speakers to match the new radio (impedence)
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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (8/13)
 7/17/12 3:01pm
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 Hi Mark, judging from your pics I can't see any reason why the column shouldn't drop down 2-3". That's the way I remember it.

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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (9/13)
 7/17/12 4:03pm
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Now that you're this far, without a doubt replace the heater core! They're not that expensive  and I would hate to see you have to tear it out again! The cores may look good but you can't see the inside. When the core lets loose it may damage the passenger's side carpet (and try to explain to your wife or girlfriend "It's just antifreeze, hun, don't worry about it!"). You've went this far, don't skiimp now!
 
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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (10/13)
 7/17/12 4:47pm
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And do not forget to change all of the light bulbs.  Go to this site and you can get all that are required for less than $5.  Any place else will cost you $20 or more.

I will send you a pdf on my research on dash lights.  I purchased all of mine from this guy took only about a week to get them.

Adam I sure wish we could attach a pdf to something either a PM or something.

What a bummer I just check the web site and he is closed up for vacation until the 14 August. 
I really do not want to but I have 17 ANSI Bulb Number 168 Made by CEC. that I purchase a year ago from him  for $.23 each. 

But be aware that he now advertise them for $1.99 a box of 10.  It looks like the price dropped.   If you want mine you got to pay what I paid for them.  Anyway that is the deal plus first class postage.  PM me with your address if you are interested. 





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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (11/13)
 7/18/12 8:51am
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Ok got then heater core out not bad at all, the duct connected to it on the left was hard finding the third screw as it was in a wire holding loop that was bent down hiding the screw???
 
But now more questions hear is what mine looks like is this correct?????????????????


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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (12/13)
 7/19/12 1:52am
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Now that the heater assembly is out, take some time and study all the levers and actuators.  Clean and lubricate everything that moves.  On mine, I found one of the actuator rods was nearly worn completely thru and ready to break off.  Time well spent.

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Re: Dash cover off and trying to get the original dash off! (13/13)
 8/2/12 11:55am
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Ok the new heater core is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Not that bad but the duct work back together was tight.
 
Now I started it up to check leaks and it looks good but cannot get the blower switch to work.
It was not working before I took the dash off but thought with everything out I coule d find the issue but  I cannot.  It had worked in the past.
 
The fuse looks good.
The relay has pwoer to it and its clicking?
There is power to the 4 positions switch but has 5 wires so how do I test that it has power where it needs to be.
 
So could it be the blower itself?
 
Stuck on this for now, checking the wiring diagram if anone has a imput I will take it, in troubleshooting?


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