Well! It's gettin worse here in N.E. Pa. $3.59, reg  $3.89 for 92 octane. If I prop the Rag Top up when I travel, can I get a few wind currents to push me along?

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Hey, Mark, get this stuff called Star Tron. I have to buy it at a motorcycle shop. My Corvette mechanic told me about it. Its supposed to counteract the alcohol and save the Carbs! I've been using it in mine with no problems!   

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Yes, Kevin, it will affect our cars, especially the carburators. Remember, there was no such thing as alcohol in gas back in the day our cars were produced. If you ignoe iy, you WILL have problems in the future!

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Hey Barry..did you know Ford designed the Model T to run on ethanol?   I researched this star tron product..walmart carries it..its in the outdoor boating section according to star tron..it sounds like it breaks the water down into molecular and allows it to be burned off..it does not eliminate ethanol..if you have water in the gas or store the car this stuff sounds like it should work..I think the thought is ethanol attracts water therefor it will have water in it no matter what..ok I can see that..just not sure how much water E 10 can absorb?   Really there is no problem running this stuff as it claims to clean everything..and it is not an alchohol..key point there..most people think they should put the dry gas when they get water in the tank..if they have E10 in there you only add more alchohol and increase the amount of alchohol in the fuel..meaning a higher than E10 fuel..something that can be bad..anyway haven't called the gas station lately to see what gas is at now but I would bet it is over 7$ a gallon now!

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Had to order heating fuel oil today, just a bit to get us into warm weather....383 gallon....We are having real high winds past few days out of the East...when that happens I can not burn wwodstove as it backdrafts in East winds over 17mph.

We are getting over 30 mph gusts been rattiling the house pretty good tonight

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3.83 Al, wow we just got some yesterday, 3.50 if I pay for it within 5 days. I guess that was a deal. Where the heck am I going to get that kind of money? I wanted to chase the guy away when I saw him coming.
4 dollar gas, ethanol may go to 15% & they know it aint worth a dam. Heating oil prices. And we're still buying most of our oil from scum bags that would like to cut our heads off with a handsaw.
 

Fuel alcohol absorbs waaay more moisture than gasoline does, and the mixture is extremely corrosive to metals/plastics, and rubber products....basically EVERYTHING in the fuel system. The newer cars were designed with this in mind, and the parts are compatible with the ethanol blends that were in the pipeline at the time. OUR Sharks, on the other hand, were NEVER intended to run anything but real gasoline...none of this mamby-pamby ethanol crap.
If there's something that will actually break down the water in the fuel to where it can be burned, that's ok, but...it does nothing to eliminate the problems associated with the alcohol damaging the rest of the fuel system, if I read what Rich posted correctly.
Does this stuff actually break down the moisture in the fuel IN the tank, so it will evaporate, or just make it easier to burn in the combustion chamber? Actually, water won't burn, but it will create steam, which would do some serious cleaning in the cylinders!
I'm curious about this stuff now...


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Went to $3.55 here early this week, then began to sink...  $3.40...  $3.35...  $3.31, then yesterday, up with a bullet - back up to $3.65!  Luckily, I was able to find a station still at $3.31 (across the street from $3.65).

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 I have a 03' Impala which developed a "O" ring leak on the fuel pressure regulator for the fuel rails. It was difficult to diagnos becouse of the evaparation. I had this HORENDOUS smell in the garage. E-10 STINKS. After I replaced it, smell went away. What is in that stuff? No wonder the old car parts don't like it.  The speed shop I use has the additive for E-10, and I was courious to know if it was all hype or a ligitimate product to assist in preserveing our old cars.  The STAR-TRON product is advertised in the motorcycle mags I get. I may look into something to off set the corrosion factor in all my engines.  I suspect the reason my lawn mowers are running poorly is a result of this E-10 factor.    Yeah, Rich it was a long one!  I am gettin better with this thing!

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Geez Mark..never seen a post that long..and no spelling errors! ! That one finger plink is really getting good..I think the one thing that must be understood about E10 and all ethanol gas additives like Star tron is they do not remove the alchohol..they remove water..this product is like stabil..it doesn't remove its corrosive propertys..E10 is certified by manufacturers by govt mandate to be acceptable from 02 and up..all..so I dought the leak you had Mark was a by product of ethanol..I still think the best protection we have is running the fuel lines empty before storage and leave as little gas in the tank as possible..other than that just keep a wide eye on all rubber lines..

Rich

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 Who said ya can't teach an OLD dog new technology! Before I got this job I didn't even know what one of these things was.       

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Check out this web site. You can get ethanol free gas in some states. There's one in New Hampshire about 40 miles from me but it's only 87 octane. A bunch in places like PA and TX.
http://www.buyrealgas.com/

  

Mark..these additives only remove water..water rusts stuff..thats part of the corrosive part of E10..the ethanol disolves sludge and old crap in the fuel system so clogged fuel filters can happen ..your better off wizzing in the gas tank than using an octane booster..they don't do much..and cost much..just relax and maybe use some stabil or the others on the market..storage will be the biggest concern ..and Jeff I have seen that site..its ok but at times can be very inacurate..don't drive the 40 miles unless you call first and find out if they are not E 10.

Oh an Heston said it best " from my cold dead hands "..hopefully hit that for a day in Pittsburg this year!

Rich

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It is now up to $3.50 for 91 oct here in Tucson, AZ.  The Regular unleaded has gone up a lot but, the good stuff has remained in the same area so far.

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Actually, you should keep the tank full during storage. The less air in the tank the better. Changes in temp. causes the humidity in the air to condense into water, the more air the more water you'll get. Dave

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Your right about that Dave..it will do that..I just don't store anything with any gas in it..I think it is my Grand dads fault as he taught me to do so with the boat and still do now..pulled the line off at the lake when we were on the trailer waiting to go home to run the carb out of gas..he always said you never know how long it will be untill next time you will get out..always made sure only a little amount of gas was left in the little tank..rather start the day with a fresh tank than an old one..don't want to get stuck out there..so how many sayings did he have..well he was from central Alabama so there were many..the big one now with E10 is that it will eat the junk in the tank and since our cars got many years on them with no E10 then there is bound to be some junk in there..the additives should remove the water..and the less you have in there the less chance you will end up with a full tank if crud in the Spring than not..the change in temp isn't really a big deal unless its stored during the summer or you spend winters in a humid place like the beach area..I do keep a full tank all summer though..it motivates me to try and burn it all off by fall time..seem to do that pretty easy..

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  SOOOO.......  RICH,  What about the plate?  Have you come up with an identifier for the new issue of legal ability to drive?   I may have missed it, sorry if I did. 

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Well, after a very long winter of being stored with a full tank of 10% ethanol gas, I took my '79 out twice last week. It seems to run good.

So, Cost me $25 for a little more than 6 gallons of Ultra  at Sunoco. Long criuse today in the Lukester after I touched up the valve adjustment and carb adjustments.

Hi Gang,                                                                                                                                                  Let me set the story straight with the Starton .I use it every year in my customers boats to store the fuel for the winter and try to have them use it all year long while under operation. The reason for using Starton is to keep the fuel from phazing (phazing is the separation of alcohol from gas when h20 enters the gas from water intursion  ie... rain, humity,condensation etc..)Starton DOES NOT take alcohol out of the fuel or change the fuels properties.All it does is keep the fuel from forming this thick nasty glob at the bottom of your tank that costs BIG bucks after you cook the pistons in your 8.1 mercruiser big block because the fuel injection is cloged.  All I can say is change all your fuel lines to alcohol rated hose because it will break it down (the rubber hoses) and keep the fuel low in the tank if you are going to let it sit for a period of time of 30 days or more(yes the fuel starts to go bad after 30 days..SUCKS right?)because it's less of a mess to clean up and get rid of (that costs big bucks too) I am currently looking for a company that makes a gasket kit for Q jets that is resisant to E 15, because it is coming to a pump near you. When I do, I will let eveyone here know because I need them for the boats with Q jets down at the marina (They will fit our cars because a 350 mercruiser is a vette motor with a different cam.....now you know why I play with boats, Wrap your ass in fiberglass...;o)) And I'll post a rebuilding /change the gaskets class on line with all my little secrets.........Bill

  THANKS for that reply! VERY informative and useful tid bits.  Preciate it.

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Man, I'll be a fuel expert soon! Thanks, guys!

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I can still get gas in Milwaukee for 3.49.  Not good vette weather yet but hopefully it is coming!!

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