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Ready (?) for paint... (1/30)
 8/8/14 6:46pm
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Well, I've sanded and primered and puttied and sanded and puttied and sanded and...you get the idea.  I have reached the limits of my body work know how.  If body work knowledge was measured in how sharp an object, I'm a water balloon.  I have compared this little project to working with joint compound.  The more you mess with it, the more you screw it up and if you look long enough and close enough, you'll find another spot to "fix".

After finding the original white, I actually like it.  Knowing what little knowledge and skill I have in painting cars someone please give me advice on what paint manufacturer I should use.


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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (2/30)
 8/8/14 8:24pm
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Dave, have you actually tried to buy the paint over the counter yet?


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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (3/30)
 8/8/14 9:58pm
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This company may be a good start to looking at painting options.


http://paintforcars.com/   



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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (4/30)
 8/8/14 10:06pm
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Ebo , I have not.  I was going to head out in the morning.  There is a couple of local guys I'm considering one given to me by Sarge and another just happens to be the local guys that I trust(you know the ones that own and work on cars themselves).  I think I'm going to wait until I make some improvements to my "paint booth".

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (5/30)
 8/8/14 10:48pm
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hi,don't for get to earth car body,just from body to floor.As it's a plastic car,and static will ruin any paint job.You will need to add a flex additive at least for front and rear ends.i would use it all over.

also get a panel wipe fluid and tack rags,and a paper overall.




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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (6/30)
 8/9/14 9:10am
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ok first quote on materials was $608. ouch

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (7/30)
 8/9/14 9:29am
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not bad,cost £600 ($900) to do a Camaro base coat and clear.

what brand of paint?do you know any sprayer/shops who might get what you want at trade prices?



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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (8/30)
 8/9/14 10:49am
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That quote was for just enough paint to do the car in front of the doors, 2 quarts paint, hardener, thinner and clear coat.  Not sure what brand.  I was suffering from sticker shock.

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (9/30)
 8/9/14 11:48am
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as they say over here."i think they see you coming"

look on line for mail order firms.

tell me what you was buying and quantities be able to comment more.

ok I see quantity.what is a us.quart???



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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (10/30)
 8/9/14 11:56am
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It's 1/4 a gallon.  Ok, just screwing with you.  It's about the same size a s a liter.

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (11/30)
 8/9/14 12:02pm
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right looked line here and I can get all that for less then $200.

that is going away way from firms like DuPont,custom colour.

not being rude but would you be able to use high end paints?




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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (12/30)
 8/9/14 1:50pm
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Joanne said:

right looked line here and I can get all that for less then $200.

that is going away way from firms like DuPont,custom colour.

not being rude but would you be able to use high end paints?




Rude...no chance of that with me.  I'm looking for the most forgiving paint I can find.  So it will be base coat clear coat.  I figure I can sand and sand till I get it as good as whatever makes me happy or until I get sick of sanding.  Like I've said in the past, I'm looking for a 30/30 paint job.  Good from 30 ft or 30 mph  (10 meters and 50 kph).

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (13/30)
 8/9/14 2:27pm
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have you all the primer done? did you use a long block?




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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (14/30)
 8/9/14 4:17pm
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If you need to buy two quarts you should just buy gallon it is almost the same price believe it of not. Our local advanced auto parts sells RUSTOLEUM in gallons. I am not busting your berries either. Google rustolleum paint for automobile and you will be surprised. My friend has a body shop that does a lot of classic cars and everybody wants top of the line paint until they get the price. Then it is use cheap paint until they get the price. Then it is don't paint it. Since 911 all the laws changed on chemicals causing the paint to sky rocket. Ridiculous. Another bit of terrorist info if nobody knows. The jug of 134a for a/c systems just went from $85.00 a jug to $275.00 a jug now that it is on the terrorist list of possible chemical use. We just priced out a gallon of PPG paint and a gallon of PPG clear. Our cost $2200.00. How do you justify that. I know you are trying to do the job the least expensive way but when it comes to paint there is not such a thing. I wish you the best of luck. If I had extra white paint I would deliver it you myself.

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (15/30)
 8/9/14 4:26pm
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Redwoman said:  I know you are trying to do the job the least expensive way but when it comes to paint there is not such a thing. I wish you the best of luck. If I had extra white paint I would deliver it you myself.


Hell, what paint do you have!!Wink

Not even looking for the cheapest because, as you've said, there is no such thing as cheap.  I'm just looking for decent.  This car is going to have lots of mileage put on it.  After my daughter heads to college I'm hitting the road and traveling everywhere, hoping to do the national park circuit.

Anywho...I have seen the folks that use  rustoleum and they do seem to be decent paint jobs.  I have been able to get quotes locally for about half and on the internet for about 25% of the first quote.

I did use a long block as best I could and was surprised how much of the body I could do with it.


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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (16/30)
 8/9/14 5:45pm
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you wanna walk around back of a few spray shops and see what paint brands they are using.look in the dustbins I just got a long flexible block. not used it yet. but looks promising.



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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (17/30)
 8/9/14 8:56pm
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indy99 said:

This company may be a good start to looking at painting options.


http://paintforcars.com/   



Based on what you said this may be an option for you.


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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (18/30)
 8/9/14 9:08pm
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indy99 said:
indy99 said:

This company may be a good start to looking at painting options.


http://paintforcars.com/   



Based on what you said this may be an option for you.


I checked out the site right after you posted it.  That's why the sticker shock hit me so hard.  I don't see anyone getting close to their prices.

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (19/30)
 8/10/14 2:46am
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hi,i would give that suppliers a try.

what conditions are you spraying in? if anything other then a booth take care.

if your in your garage,poly sheet every walls damp floor.if you have a cple of fans,place them so they pull air out. suck rather then blow across the car.you'll embed dust/bugs by blowing from behind car. if you do get bugs leave them alone ,till dry.then pick off.little legs don't show as much as a swat mess.

look at hardeners spec,or phone and ask if they contain polyisocyanates.

iso.will wreck your lungs,with out proper air fed mask.

my advise is don't use it .go for the single stage kit.




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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (20/30)
 8/10/14 2:54am
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Here is some useful info on painting your car.


Very good article on painting a corvette.  http://www.mathcs.duq.edu/~vergot/corvette/index.html


Good graphics site  http://www.autorestylersinc.com/index.php?osCsid=064a2f2e1dcead95887d0f53ae99d85a


Pin striping supply  http://www.stewartdesign.biz/products/pinstripes.html


Adding a pearl additive to paint  http://www.paintwithpearl.com/


Another pin striping supplier  http://www.stripeman.com/pin-stripes.htm


and finally another automotive paint supplier  http://www.tcpglobal.com/


Hope this can help you. Food for thought.  Indy99



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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (21/30)
 8/10/14 5:47am
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You should have already ordered that paint by now from that company. When it gets there hurry up and get the car painted. If you can find the paint at the right price you will be much happier painting the whole car. I can't imagine you blending into the doors will look right. I don't read books but enjoy reading this forum. It is like a mystery novel I can't wait to hear the end of the story. Is there any hotels near you Dave. I want to be there when you paint the car. Get the story first hand. I don't want to wait to read the forum of the story after the paint job. I am serious. Waiting for ebo to give you some more advice.

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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (22/30)
 8/10/14 9:21am
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Rodney, I will probably get the paint from someone local even at a higher price.  I will undoubtedly recoup the extra money spent getting their advice.  Besides the more I got down actual paint quality and comparing 1 to 1 the prices aren't that far off, maybe $25.

I'm not blending.  I'm stopping right at the doors.  Both doors need repair and the passenger door I might scrap altogether.  The passenger rear quarter must have taken a hit while it was being held captive by its maniacal previous owner.  I'm going to shave the locks and the antenna as well.  This won't happen until after Carlisle and the Caravan.

While laying in bed last night I just said to myself "F#$K IT!  I'm going out and buying some spray cans!"  I woke up this morning, late, with a clearer head.

You're always welcome to stay here, as long as you keep your laughs and giggles to yourself.


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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (23/30)
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hey,I hope your not getting cold feet.

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 8/10/14 3:15pm
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I found the paint!  



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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (25/30)
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lol.you'd save on headlights with that for sure.

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 8/11/14 9:53am
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DO IT, Dave! We won't need lights at night for Carlisle!
 
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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (27/30)
 8/11/14 12:40pm
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Jaws79 said: DO IT, Dave! We won't need lights at night for Carlisle!
 
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Honest to god picture this: I pull into the NCRS judging area at night!  I can see them wetting themselves from laughing so hard!  If I could plistidip it, I would...maybe.

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dads2vette said: I found the paint!  



I double-dog dare ya, Dave......Evil Smile




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Re: Ready (?) for paint... (29/30)
 8/11/14 5:11pm
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Don't laugh I was at a show last month and there was a 2007 Vette that looked like it was all under coated . I think it was plasti dip. The guy did the body and even the rims. Gotta tell yea it sure did get al lot of attention and pictures taken of it. There you go Dave probably can even break out that thong I was reading about and pose for a few pictures. I am sure Ebo would like a 10x12 or full size to Jung up at the ranch for next year.

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 8/11/14 5:14pm
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Rodney, you're making my eyes water from the pain of those sights...me in a thong and a plastidipped C7Sick

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