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What are the Number? (1/10)
6/5/08 9:51pm

cilrah

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Okay the picture below is of a data plate on the frame of the actual 1978 Pace Car in the Indy Museum. I've inhanced it on Photoshop but still have a hard time reading the numbers. What do you all see?

GM Data Plate

Interesting data plate, Ive never seen one that says for "Educational Purposes Only"

cilrah2008-06-05 18:56:43

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What are the Number? (2/10)
6/5/08 11:26pm

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Mark, of the few pics I took at Indy, I got a good one of that plate. Numbers are 6253, no enhancing necessary.

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6/5/08 11:28pm

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Mark, my guess is it says 6253 on both lines of the plate. Like you said, kinda hard to read. How does that correspond to the original pacer numbers??

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6/5/08 11:48pm

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Here ya go...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-4/706755/dataplate1.jpg

cropped,,,

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-4/706755/dataplate4.jpg

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What are the Number? (5/10)
6/5/08 11:53pm

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Cool Mike, looks to me like top and bottom are the same 6253? Thanks Mike.

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What are the Number? (6/10)
6/5/08 11:57pm

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[QUOTE=cilrah]

Cool Mike, looks to me like top and bottom are the same 6253? Thanks Mike.

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Yep. which doesn't coinside with the oddball VIN that Pace Car is supposed to have.

Maybe it's the 6253rd item GM's given for educational purposes?

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6/6/08 12:09am

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The numbers themselves really mean nothing, imho.
I believe the car was intended, built, and used for display purposes only...
I'd assume those numbers are simply a means of keeping tabs on the costs associated with the vehicle....basically an accounting number.
If you guys don't mind, I'll be happy to copy the pics, and show them to a couple of guys I know that may have some insight to the "logic" behind GM ways of doing things.
Noland Adams(yep..he's a cousin

) would prolly have an idea or two.

btw...where exactly IS this plate on the frame/car?Adams' Apple2008-06-05 21:13:00

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6/6/08 12:17am

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Joel, go for it.

That particular Pace Car was the prototype with some of the mods that the production pacers did not get. Blueprinted motor, dual exhaust. Reportedly used for a month prior to the race. Was the backup car to the actual pace car, no 0001. The VIN is a regular production 78 number, not a pace car number.

We were surprised to see that the VIN tag on the window pillar was removed!

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6/6/08 12:19am

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[QUOTE=Adams' Apple]

btw...where exactly IS this plate on the frame/car?[/QUOTE]

One was on the frame by the rear bumper, one on the trans crossmember. Actually, it was more of a foil sticker.

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6/6/08 9:28am

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Yup Mike's right, one up front on the cross member, one on the rear of frame near the bumper and they were just a foil sticker. I'd appreaciate it Joel if you could ask around for me, thanks Thumbs%20Up

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