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10/21/15 1:58pm - Original Message: 'Whoo-Hoo - NCRS Judging Point #2 !!'
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Gig Harbor, WA - USA

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1973 L82 4 Speed Coupe - Very original, well documented driver/survivor. 2016 Bend Regional NCRS Top Flight.

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Joined the NW Chapter of the NCRS a few months ago. A good friend with a C2 is a member and I met a few more of the members at the XXX Corvette Show in Issaquah. WA. a couple weeks ago. Great guys and their level of detail is certainly more than a few steps higher than mine, but I thought it would be the perfect way to learn. 

Most of them are C1/C2 guys that don't pay much attention to C3's unless they're HP aluminum L88's and L89's, but I also thought it was funny when I heard that many of the C1 guys have the same feeling about the C2 cars.

So yesterday I attended my first chapter meet in Wilsonville, OR. (Portland). We planned to judge a recently restored '54 and an original "55 that had been restored a few years ago but never judged. I truly expected to be asked to stand at least 10 ft. away, keep my hands in my pockets and observe while the rest of the group judged the cars. Not so, I was paired up with an experienced member, handed a clipboard, score sheets and a '53 to '55 Judging Manual. This was going to be interesting !!

Of the judging categories, my partner (female with 100's of judging points) and I were assigned Exterior on both cars. Probably not as technical as some of the mechanical areas and probably a good place for a noob to start. 

I had never had much interest in C1 cars and probably never closer than three feet to anything '53 to '55, but there I was all close and personal with these two cars. Very interesting and learned a ton. Many subtle differences between a '54 and '55. The '54 had the triple carb'd Blue Flame six, the '55 had a V-8 with a 4bbl. The '54 was red with a beautiful beige cloth top and the "55 was yellow with a greenish tint and had a green cloth top. That color combination was a first in "55 and I had never seen it before. The owner was a huge Oregon Duck fan so I'm sure that color combination was a huge influence on his buying decision.

It took us about two hours to judge each of the cars and we gave both guys good feedback on taking their cars to the next level at an NCRS Regional event. We had to look pretty hard to find anything wrong with the recently restored '54, but found a few small items. The '55 was an older restoration and we found a few more things that needed attention.

After the exterior judging, I was handed another clip board and asked to help perform the operational checks. I asked to witness the checks on the first car then proceeded with the second. This is where a lot of guys can get it all pretty and shiny, but everything working on a 60 year old plastic car can be a bit challenging. Both cars had some electrical issues that were probably attributed to bad grounds, but a couple of things were certainly attributed to the Corvette gremlins (crap, that worked perfect yesterday !!).

In the end the '54 took a Top Flight award an the '55 took a Second Flight, both in my opinion deservedly so. Now it's back to the workshop and wallet for both guys so they can take the next step to a Regional event. Regionals are a much larger events with judging at the next level of knowledge and experience.

After the awards were presented, discussion turned to our next meeting in late Oct. and the possible judging of a restored '67 and certain guy's '73 Survivor. A few guys have seen my car and "pretty, shiny and trailer queen" are not part of the conversation. My car is a bit crusty, has its fair share of bumps and bruises, but IMHO pretty darn original. Now I'll find out if its as original as I think and if I can turn that and darn near perfect operations into a Third Flight. That's my goal and I'll kiss the ground if I can get it, even at the Chapter level !!      

    

    


|UPDATED|10/21/2015 11:58:05 AM (AZT)|/UPDATED|


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8/30/15 9:12pm - Reply: 'Re: Whoo-Hoo - NCRS Judging Point #1 !!'
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Eagan, MN - USA

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1981 Corvette Two-Tone Claret color, 4 spd, C7 Vert

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It is unbelievable the amount of knowledge out there!!!  I joined in college and have still not participated in a judged event.....I don't have enough brain cells to remember all that....I do have a scoring manual for mine somewhere around here I filled out once when I was still agile and had the car up in the air.    I "score" judged vintage motorcycles once a year and that is enough for me.
 
I polished out a neighbors black '94 and he's on his way to a regional in Sept. now that he passed his PV.
Good luck at the regional!!!!
 


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8/31/15 1:00pm - Reply: 'Re: Whoo-Hoo - NCRS Judging Point #1 !!'
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1973 L82 4 Speed Coupe - Very original, well documented driver/survivor. 2016 Bend Regional NCRS Top Flight.

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Hey John, just from seeing a few pictures of your car I'm sure it would be a great candidate for Flight judging, a Bowtie award or perhaps both. If you're still an NCRS member head to a local Chapter meet or roll into the Regional with your buddy and his '94. Your car will do great and bring one more C3 into the group to fend off all of those C1, C2 guys, LOL !! Hope to you meet you somewhere at the 2016 gathering wherever it ends up.

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8/31/15 5:40pm - Reply: 'Re: Whoo-Hoo - NCRS Judging Point #1 !!'
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1981 Corvette Two-Tone Claret color, 4 spd, C7 Vert

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Vman73 said: . If you're still an NCRS member head to a local Chapter meet or roll into the Regional with your buddy and his '94. up.

Thanks!
I do all the NCRS social cruises.  The judging stuff is not my thing.  I help with the body off "pulls and final landings"...I love restoration stuff.   I'll clean the heck out of them (I used to excel in the NCCC show world 25 yrs ago)  but the number matching is not important.   Their events are always the third Saturday of the month......same time as a motorcycle club I run....never enough weekends to do everything! 


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10/21/15 2:21pm - Reply: 'Re: Whoo-Hoo - NCRS Judging Point #2 !!'
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1973 L82 4 Speed Coupe - Very original, well documented driver/survivor. 2016 Bend Regional NCRS Top Flight.

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So NCRS judging point #2 came last weekend when I participated in our latest NW chapter event, a 1967 SB Coupe. Mainly a restored driver, but a very nice car. The owner had done quite a bit of work, but still had a few things to take care of to get Top Flight, we awarded him a Second Flight in its current condition. I was technically an Observer Judge (OJ) on this one and ran clip board for two experienced guys judging Mechanical. Learned a lot about the procedure and format of the score sheets, got to know our Judging Chairman a bit better and did stick my nose in a few times when I thought they needed a third set of eyes on something. I also learned quite a bit more about how to judge the key factors of Originality, Condition and Cleanliness. So now it's back out to my garage with a fresh set of scoring sheets to give my '73 another go round. I was hoping to have my car judged before our Regional meet next June in Bend OR., but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. I'll have to give it my best and cross my fingers that Originality and Operations can win out over Condition to get me a Third Flight !!!

|UPDATED|10/21/2015 12:21:33 PM (AZT)|/UPDATED|


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