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7/14/10 7:50pm - Original Message: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
BillinNashville
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1974 coupe. 350 CID with Turbo 400 trans. Decal says 8.5:1 compression. Needs paint and AC replaced but don't plan on full restoration. Car runs strong. No big problems so far. 67,000 miles on Odometer, probably rolled over

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Seems like I am taking advantage of this forum. I apologize for that. I hope I can make up for it in the future.

I have a new problem in my restoration project.
The front Urethane Cover has been replace with a Fiberglass cover. It has a crack in it and I wanted to remove it for repair.
I removed the bolts but it is still firmly attached. It appears to have been glued. I tried sliding a utility knife in the seam/joint between the front deck and the bumper cover. No success it is on there very well. It wouldn't even need the bolts to hold it on.
Is this normal? I am afraid to try to pry it off for fear of cracking the nose section. Should I just repair the crack in place and clean out the joint and paint it in place?
I sure hope the rear is not glued as well. I really want to replace it with an original 1974 style Tru Flex

Again I am sorry for being such a pest.
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It has been over a year since I started. I had to quit the project so the car just sat in the garage. I was able to get started again in May 2012. As of July 27 2012 I have done the fiberglass repairs and applied Slick Sand High Build Primer.




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7/14/10 10:12pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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Bill, no problem with usin us you are edgamakatin us at the same time Wink.
But if you go higher than 10 on the top poster list you automatically get charged the gold member price. Sort of like when you go out to eat with a party of 10 or more and they add on the tip......
 
So any how, I'm not sure about that glued on bumper, is it just a thin skin?
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7/14/10 10:53pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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You might as well fix it in place, you could fill the joint for that one piece look as long as both pieces are fiberglass. Just trying to make more work for you LOL
Don't worry about the questions, if we did not approve we would not answer youLOL
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7/14/10 11:58pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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I would try to repair it in place. No need to create more damage.
 
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7/15/10 12:51pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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Are you certain you got all of the fasteners off? The '74 is a different animal than any of the other rubber bumper cars. Then again, it may be that the cover and braces have fused themselves to the body. I remember having to learn a few new werds when removing mine years ago...

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7/15/10 6:30pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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I took another look. It looks like whatever metal reinforcing pieces were supposed to be in the corners are not there. I have a 1974 Corvette build manual and it shows them. I am thinking they didn't have them so to make it rigid they bonded the pieces. I found another site where it showed this being do on a drag car to save weight. If I can't get the cover off, It is a fiberglass replacement, I will repair it in place and paint it. I can't even get a razor blade in the joint. It is very tight. If the bond is strong enough I may fill the joint and make it appear seamless. One source said to cut it off if I was going to replace it with Tru-flex. I don't think I'm up for that.


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7/15/10 6:40pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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I have a fiberglass front bumper that is molded in. I did glue mine with a GM bonding glue prior to the glasswork. This was reccomended to do so by the bodyshop I chose. So I wouldn't be surprised if you would find the same.

Depending on your crack I agree with the other folks that I would repair the glass on the car. It is very do-able and not too tuff.

Sand - clean - resin - glass matte - a lil more resin - Duraglass (bondo) - sand - prime - sand - paint...



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7/16/10 4:02pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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1974 coupe. 350 CID with Turbo 400 trans. Decal says 8.5:1 compression. Needs paint and AC replaced but don't plan on full restoration. Car runs strong. No big problems so far. 67,000 miles on Odometer, probably rolled over

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Thanks Tux
It appears this front cover was bonded. I think I might be able to finish that process and do away with the seam altogether. I am not sure how to finish the seam tho. If I just use "Bondo" will it eventually show as a crack? It there a better product to finish the seam.
The seam is very tight. I cannot fit a razor blade in there in most of it.


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7/16/10 4:15pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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Well Bill -N- Nashville.... (like the screen name.....) as I said above.

"Sand - Clean - Resin - Fiber Matte - More Resin - Duraglass (a specific bondo with fiberglass mixed in it. Duraglass is the brand.) - Sand - Primer - Sand - Paint.

To be honest the glue most likely will hold everything except the corners. There isn't enough additional bracing to deter the flex & vibration.

But don't run the risk..... wrap er in glass.

As for a lil secret.... My back bumper is urethane and molded in. (LOL)

I wanted a 80 - 82 style bumper to give the car more of the 68-72 old school look. I was at Bloomington Gold when I ran into a guy who had this bumper complete with lights for $80.00.

I knew I would need the lights and the would have cost me that much anyplace else if not more. I bought it from him and bought the rest of my ACI products from the show. They shipped everything straight to my body shop.

When this bumper dies I will pull it off and replace it with the same style of molded in fiberglass bumper.

But it might be sooner as I am contemplating some changes to the rear of the car.....

I think it needs to be a lil more old school and show off a lil more muscle......
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7/16/10 5:56pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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Thanks Tux
I needed that encouragement. I don't own a body shop. I'm a carpenter and wannabee songwriterWink

But I have a fair amount of skill and patience with my hands. One thing concerns me is the lack of metal reinforcing that has bee removed from the front end. I think I will order the parts and install them. That should stiffen it up pretty good.
I have an 80's style fiberglass rear bumper cover. It has a small bit of damage on the drivers side, It is easily repairable. (Granddaughter's teenage boyfriend backed into it in my driveway) I don't know if it is bonded on or not. I was thinking of replacing it with the original style Tru-flex but I do like the spoiler. I agree it gives it more the 68-72 look. I might leave it the more I think of it but the previous owner used two tail light lens the same, no backup lights. I'll be fixing that if I can.
You can see the small damage in this picture It's at the bottom of the bumber

BillinNashville2010-07-16 15:04:54

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7/21/10 12:28pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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I agree that you should fiberglass the front bumper in place.  If you do, you certainly do not need the metal reinforcements too.  I would also fix the rear one on the car.

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5/17/11 1:42pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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Okay, so while we're talking about '74 bumpers and installation, I am in the process of fitting a urethane front bumper on my '74. It is a pain-in-the-a__ (that would be arm). The metal reinforcing framework is tough to work into the bumper tabs and through the front of the car. It is all hooked up except for the two nuts on the upper outermost bolts. If anybody has an easy way to get to those two which are up behind the body reinforcement, I would welcome the advise on any method to get to them.
 
If I were you BillinNashville, I would leave the bonded bumper on unless you are a purist trying to get back to original stock. I also like the '82 spoiler rear-end and have thought of putting one on the '74. Good luck.
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5/17/11 7:26pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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Small hands, and a large bucket o patience...
Raise the headlights UP...that will give you more room, if you haven't already. It also helps to be able to do stuff with your eyes closed...since there's not a chance in hades that you'll be able to see the studs AND get your hand up in there....


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5/17/11 9:24pm - Reply: 'Front Bumper Cover Glued On'
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Yep, you've obviously been there.
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