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12/10/10 6:30pm - Original Message: 'Removing undercoat'
rlu1968
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Gordonvillle, TX - USA

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1968 Roadster 427

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My painter thought he needed to undercoat my 68 after it was painted. I thought he was only doing the wheel wells for looks. He did a half ass job and sprayed this undercoat on the frame and shocks, wheels and even some on the oil pan. I had a nice painted, and rust free Texas car frame, and it now looks like i am trying to cover something up like rust etc. How can I remove this without having to sand or media blast the frame. I don't want to screw up the new paint job. I have heard that gasoline will get it off, but that could be very dangerous. 

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12/10/10 10:26pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

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How long has the u-coat been on there? If it is fresh, some mineral spirits(varsol/naptha) on a rag should get it off. It's gonna take a while to do it, tho, no matter how you do it.
When I took the u-coat off my '74, I spent about a month crawling around under it with a razor blade, carefully peeling the stuff off. I just did the underbody and chassis, and left it on the wheel-wells.
When they did it at the factory, some undercoating did get sprayed on the storage wells, and the spare tire carrier, but it wasn't supposed to....they were just usually in a hurry. This was done before the body drop, so there would have been no u-coating on the frame, or other chassis parts.
Hope you can get most of it taken off easily. One thing you need to check is if ANY got on the driveshaft, or the halfshafts....that's a definite NO-NO!

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12/10/10 10:31pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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York, PA - USA

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1969 daytona conv. all original 350 350 380 4 sp w/air..and hard top

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Oh geez whats next with this body shop..I hope the paint at least looks great..removing that black gew is like Joel says like a month doing it..thats really a shame..and why do they under coat in Texas anyhow..were they worried about some salty winter roads???
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12/10/10 11:31pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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HOWELL, NJ - USA

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1979, Targa Blue (72 Color), Pace Car rear spoiler, L88 hood, Dark blue factory interior, 525HP 406, HD 700R4, 370 gears,Steeroids, composite rear spring, TT IIs wrapped in T/A Radials.

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That stinks!! I'd go with the mineral spirits or some parts cleaner. Then I'd undercoat the goat the did this!!! Ermm

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12/11/10 12:34pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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1968 Roadster 427

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I found out during the process of this whole painting process that the painter was not familar with fiberglass bodys and he was mainly into restoring old metal cars. Neither the painter or the soda blasting company had much experience in the process. 
You look over the body shops, look at their paint jobs, and make a decision if this shop is right for you. They give you a good line of BS until they dive into the job. Then all they want is more money, and to get your car out of the shop. The paint job really looks great,  but just some of the ignorance in putting it all back together is unacceptable. My main objective was to just get it out of the body shop and fix and  reinstall what they did incorrectly, before it got any worse. 
I don't recommend Soda Blasting, I do recommend a Corvette paint shop even if it cost several thousand dollars more.
This undercoat has been on the car for the past couple of months, but it will probably be two more months before I can get started removing it. It is already flaking off the spare tire cover.


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12/11/10 3:37pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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Valley Springs, CA - USA

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1978,Metalic Money Green W/Gold emblems,TH350 w/gear splitter,black & grey interior.1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold ,Doeskin interior,auto. trans. 1981, Silver w/mirrored T-Tops,4 spd, charcoal interior.

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 Hi Richard, Your painter sounds very familiar. I have a good friend who painted 2 of our vettes. He's been painting for 20 yrs. and can do a great job (when motivated). I was really surprised at the number of issues we were faced with in the aftermath Confused. I would never take a vette to anyone else, but if I could ever afford another paint job, I would do all the disassemble / reassemble myself. Who'd have thought.... it is rocket science. As a matter of fact, I think I'll try to paint one myself.

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12/11/10 7:31pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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Gordonvillle, TX - USA

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1968 Roadster 427

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I did paint one myself 21 years ago. Base coat, clear coat, Glassurit paint. The same car I have now. It cost me $350.00 back then. With my labor being free. however  it was time to do it again with all the stress cracks nicks etc. I had some military experience in painting.
Base coat clear coat is very forgiving. It just takes a lot of sanding between coats and a real clean paint booth, and lots of buffing. Most any runs can be worked out with clear coat. I wanted this time around, to take it all down to the bare body and start over with professional repairs and painter. But I think if I were to have had some help and a clean paint booth, I could have done it myself and been very happy and saved a lot of money. Paint and materials are so much more expensive these days.   These body shops just want your money and then want to get onto other jobs when they have got most of your job prepaid.    Every week there was progress working on my vette, the shop wanted money.   finally when they got close to the $10,000 they were just in a big hurry to throw the car togeher and get it out. Find a shop who will do the work with no upfront money, or any draws, and has corvette experience. 


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12/11/10 8:06pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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Sykesville, MD - USA

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1979 Corvette Coupe Corvette Light Blue Midnight Blue interior Mirrored Glass T-tops

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I'm sorry to hear of your experience with the painter. Although one thing I found about Vettes quickly is that you never take a Vette to a shop ( mechanical or paint ) that does not have experience with Vettes. All the mechanical work I had done when I first got the Vette had to be redone by a Corvette shop. The guy thats painting my Vette now only works on Vettes. I dropped off the Vette today and I don't have to pay until its done (with a certified check). I've seen some of his other jobs and I hope my car turns out as well.  
 
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12/11/10 10:51pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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1968 Roadster 427

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Yes I agree, my wife is giving me hell because I was going with a vette shop in Dallas, but thought I would try and save money elsewhere.  So now I have to deal with the crap form both sides. 
Again only go with those who have painted many corvette's, not just like maybe one other like my shop did.  I thought his paint jobs were great on the metal cars he did. And he did a great paint job on my car, but sloppy elsewhere. 
Don't go with a vette to Mainstreetpaintandbody.com in Randolph
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12/11/10 11:21pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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Deisel fuel will take off the undercoating and is not explosive like gas.  The fumes will linger a while.  But It works well and a little goes a long way.  The trick I found is that you have to keep it wet once it starts coming off,  and work small areas, so that you finish the area you are working once you start.

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12/12/10 10:13am - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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Thanks, I will give that a try.



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12/12/10 12:59pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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New Albany, OH - USA

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1980 Coupe / Snowcrest White / L48, 350 / Comp Cam / Edelbrock Heads / Cyclone Intake / Holley Carb / Holley Fuel Pump / Patriot Headers / Dual Exhaust / Magnaflow Mufflers / 1964 Coupe / Riverside Red / L76, 327, 365hp

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I had my '80 completely stripped and repainted this year.  The guy that did it has one of the best reputations in the area for quality work, so that was great.  However, he is also a perfectionist and would only work on the car when he didn't have big dollar insurance work to do.  He had my car from March until the end of August. 
Including the soda blast strip job and all new rubber, it ended-up costing me $6,000.  He also was able to correct most of the gap problems between body panels that Vettes are famous for. 
By the way, what is the down-side for a soda blast job?  I thought mine really came out well.


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12/12/10 3:53pm - Reply: 'Removing undercoat'
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They did not cover the inside and important areas of the car when using the soda. Had soda residue up in the light area, inside the car and up under the hood. 
Gets as hard as a brick to clean up. They added water to the soda to make it work faster, which I don't know if this was the right thing to do, because it just gets real hard when it dries. 
Plus the caustic soda seems to have caused me some problems in other areas. 
When I got the car back the gas gage was pegged all the way past full, the horn did not work, no lights, no wipers, no horn would work. 


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