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6/12/08 1:32pm - Original Message: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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Just had my A/C fixed and changed over to 134A.  Mechanic said he was worried about the air flow over the condenser.  When the car is still and the engine is idling the pressure builds and the air temp from the A/C climbs.  He sprayed cool water on the condenser and the pressure dropped and the air got colder...just as it should.  He mentioned adding an electric fan for the condenser, it seems the 81 vette had one.  I've looked through this forum and found a lot about electric fans but mostly for the radiator.   Need some advice.  Looked on some of our sponsors web sites and did not find anything specifically for the condenser.
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6/12/08 1:44pm - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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The electric fan is on the rad. side, it draws air thru the condenser then thru the rad. I have the stock fan from my car (an '82) wich will fit your '81. Someone must have removed yours at some time. If you need it you can have mine, just pay the shipping. It's in good shape.
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6/12/08 4:54pm - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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My car is an 80.  Looking at the AIM manuals there was no fan.  Did the 81 and 82 replace the engine driven fan with an electric fan or was the electric fan in addition to the engine fan?  You said it was on the radiator side...is that next to the engine or between the condenser and the radiator.
 
I just need to cool down the condenser more than it's getting cooled.  Hopefully I would not have to replace my existing cooling fan , I just put a new clutch on it.


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6/12/08 8:26pm - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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For 79 and 80 with the L82/AC combo an auxiliary electric fan was installed to supplement the mechanical fan. It's on the motor side of the radiator. Not on the L48s. For 81-82 pretty sure everyone got it.
It's controlled by a motor mounted thermostat that turns it on at 238 degrees.


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6/12/08 8:37pm - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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OOPS, Mike you beat me to the reply but Im going to leave this one posted anyway. The 82 had an auxiliary electric cooling fan mounted just forward of the engine driven fan.  The electric fan is activated by a thermo switch mounted in the engine block.  It could be easily modified to be switched manually by the driver instead of operated by the thermo switch.  If you need one, Daves should fit and you can't beat free Crossfire19822008-06-12 17:39:28

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6/12/08 10:16pm - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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Thanks for the offer Dave, I will PM you later to figure out the details.  You just gotta love this forum!

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6/13/08 11:27am - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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Just came back from my mechanics place.  Told him about the fan Dave offered.  We talked about some of the things I've read on the forum - sealing around the radiator, heater shutoff valves, etc.  He was in the process of putting new foam seal around the radiator so that was good.  The shutoff valves have already been installed on my car and he showed me where they were.  He said that if the condenser is being cooled the pressure is around 35 on the low side and 210 on the high with good cold air.
 
With new seals and Dave's fan I should be in great shape.  I will need to check my alternator to see if it's stout enough (read that on this forum also). I do have a leak in the evaporator though so I am going to replace it.   What else should I do while I'm at it?


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6/13/08 1:18pm - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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One of the inherent issues with changing to 134a is it's inability to cool as well(in most cases) as R12, in a system designed for R12. 134 runs at higher pressures, which means it also has higher temps on the condenser(pressure) side.
An electric fan will be a great help when idling, or driving slow. Once you get moving, if all of the rad/shroud seals are in place, you should have no problems with it at all.

If you're gonna go in a do the evap core, make sure to have the plenum re-sealed properly, so no hot air from the engine side will get forced into the A/C plenum...you'd be surprised at how many large gaps there are in the plenum halves from the factory, especially at the bottom.

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6/13/08 6:17pm - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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As a follow up to Joel, the efficency loss between the two refrigerants is about 10% when you do the conversion.

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7/1/08 6:27am - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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 I've been following these posts, my '82 only has one fan between the engine and the radiator.....am I missing something?

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7/1/08 6:30am - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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  Your picture flashes by to quickly for me to see the fan, my '82 only has one fan between the engine and radiator. When I bought the car the seller had just installed a new fan clutch, did they leave something off?
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7/1/08 8:10am - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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Terrence, there should be the engine driven fan with the fan clutch mounted on front of it and there should be an electric fan inside of a circular housing made of plastic and is mounted between the engine driven fan and the radiator.  The electic fan has plastic blades that are all joined by a circular piece of plastic and driven by an electric motor which is mounted to the radiator supports by a metal bracket.  In the picture the electric fan is the part that is visible just forward of the fan clutch...its just a little difficult to take a picture of it. If you can reach forward from your fan clutch directly to your radiator without reaching through a plastic fan blade then you do not have an electric fan.  There was a "heavy duty" cooling option on the 82 but I do not know what it consisted of, the electric fan may have been a part of that option? Click this link for a better pic of the fan electric fan Crossfire19822008-07-01 05:11:40

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7/1/08 9:55am - Reply: 'AC Condenser Fan'
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Thanks, mine is the Collector Edition, I thought it came with every option, maybe not.........but I'm going to research this fan because I want to upgrade to 134a.
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