C3 Vette Registry - The Best Resource on the Net for C3 Vettes! C3 Vette
Forums -> C3 Driveline Components
Not Logged In! Login or Register!  Users Online: 19 / Help 
Features  Find C3 Parts on ebay in only 2 or 3 clicks!  | Add YOUR C3 to the Registry

Supporting Vendors
VetteBookStore.com
CorvetteClothing.com
Volunteer Vette Products
Bair's Corvettes
Mid America Motorworks

C3 of the Month
None Current
Enter Yours Today!
Online C3 Show
13
C3s are Registered

Vanity Plates
1BAD75
vetteguy75
Featured Links

Buy Now
Corvette Magazine - $19.99 for 8 issues
Corvette Magazine
Only $19.99 for 8 issues


Corvette: America's Sports Car Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow (Hardcover)
Corvette: America's Sports Car Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow (Hardcover)


Corvette 50th Anniversary
Corvette 50th Anniversary


The Corvette Factories: Building America's Sports Car (Hardcover)
The Corvette Factories: Building America's Sports Car (Hardcover)



| Hide Signatures and Profile Pics

 New Topic New Topic Post Reply Reply New Poll New Poll Search     Search Page [1]  
2/26/05 10:57am - Original Message: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
problemenko
Former Member
- Send Private Message


Annandale, NJ - USA

Vette(s):
1979 White/Black

Joined: 10/14/2003
Posts: 221
I'm starting to collect parts for a swap from an auto to manual in my 79. I did a search and saw that a 93-97 Fbody setup would work. I remember seeing somewhere that a chevy truck setup from the 80's would work as well. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what model bellhousing and hydraulic clutch assembly works (aside from the 93-97)? I'm looking to shave some costs here so any suggestions would help.


 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
 
Support C3VR!
Suport our advertisers
2/26/05 7:31pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
Adams' Apple Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
Moderator
- Send Private Message


Duncanville, TX - USA

Vette(s):
#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

Joined: 11/8/2003
Posts: 19506
What trans are you gonna use? We recently converted an XJ-6 from auto to a T-5, and the customer had a bellhousing w/hyd. throw-out brng setup. It was an aftermarket deal, but it worked our really sweet. I'll try to find out where he got his stuff, and what kind of $$ was involved.

____________________________________
Joel Adams
C3VR Lifetime Member #56    
My Link


(click for Texas-sized view!)
             NCRS

"Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comforting to cry in a CORVETTE than in a Kia"
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/26/05 8:48pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
Pumps
Former Member
- Send Private Message


Virginia City, NV - USA

Vette(s):
1979 Coupe, white in color

Joined: 1/19/2005
Posts: 314

 

Keisler has complete conversion kits from auto to 5spd od units, with clutch setup, bell, flywheel and rest,  but they start at around 4k, quite spendy. I've thought of the same thing, but haven't gotten around to research yet. If I do, I'll post and be lookin for yours.



____________________________________
David Forbes, heavly medicated for your safety and protection

(Click for larger view)
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/27/05 9:14am - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
problemenko
Former Member
- Send Private Message


Annandale, NJ - USA

Vette(s):
1979 White/Black

Joined: 10/14/2003
Posts: 221
I could get a fully rebuilt Muncie M20 or M21 for around $700. I would then need to add the linkage, speedo cable, neutral switch, well, everything else. I really cannot justify buying a Keisler kit as I drive my car under 2000 miles/yr. 
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/27/05 7:13pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
Adams' Apple Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
Moderator
- Send Private Message


Duncanville, TX - USA

Vette(s):
#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

Joined: 11/8/2003
Posts: 19506
If you intend to go with a Muncie/Borg-Warner 4 spd. set-up, why not get the complete assy. from a donor car?(salvage yard) It would have eveything you need: trans, bellhousing, clutch linkage, pedal assy., etc. They did put 4spds in '79 Vettes, so the bracket for the clutch cross-shaft should be on the 'donor', but you would need to grind the welds off and then weld it onto your frame.
Time consuming, perhaps, but totally do-able.

____________________________________
Joel Adams
C3VR Lifetime Member #56    
My Link


(click for Texas-sized view!)
             NCRS

"Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comforting to cry in a CORVETTE than in a Kia"
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/27/05 11:45pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
cthulhu Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


Hot Springs, AR - USA

Vette(s):
69 Conv #'s Match 427, TKO-600, 3.36HD-Posi, T/T, PS, PB, PW, SP, Lthr, Comp Mag 270 & Pro Rlr Rockers, Edel Air-Gap RPM, BG SD 750 MS, MSD 6AL+Tach Dist+ Blaster SS+Wires, Hly Bl Fuel Pump, K&N, Jet-Hot Hkr Side-Pipes,Steeroids, Al Rad, Spal Fans

Joined: 4/24/2004
Posts: 3194

you can get the bracket from any of the places that sell frame pieces..  bairs..  vetteproducts of michigan..  doc rebuild  to name a few..  saves you te hassle of grinding the old one off and rewelding..

 

 



____________________________________
http://www.vetteprojects.com/bmv
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/28/05 9:06pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
problemenko
Former Member
- Send Private Message


Annandale, NJ - USA

Vette(s):
1979 White/Black

Joined: 10/14/2003
Posts: 221
Is it difficult to weld the piece to the frame with the body on the car?
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/28/05 10:32pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
cthulhu Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


Hot Springs, AR - USA

Vette(s):
69 Conv #'s Match 427, TKO-600, 3.36HD-Posi, T/T, PS, PB, PW, SP, Lthr, Comp Mag 270 & Pro Rlr Rockers, Edel Air-Gap RPM, BG SD 750 MS, MSD 6AL+Tach Dist+ Blaster SS+Wires, Hly Bl Fuel Pump, K&N, Jet-Hot Hkr Side-Pipes,Steeroids, Al Rad, Spal Fans

Joined: 4/24/2004
Posts: 3194

[QUOTE=problemenko]Is it difficult to weld the piece to the frame with the body on the car? [/QUOTE]

i wouldnt think so... but the body is off of mine so i cant really visualize what would be in the way



____________________________________
http://www.vetteprojects.com/bmv
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/28/05 11:29pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
Adams' Apple Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
Moderator
- Send Private Message


Duncanville, TX - USA

Vette(s):
#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

Joined: 11/8/2003
Posts: 19506
Shouldn't be a problem, just have to move a few brake components out of the way.(Lines & proportional valve) A mig welder will be better & easier than a stick, but either will work. Just make sure there's a far extinguisher handy, just in case.
btw: You should verify that your block has a threaded hole by the oil filter to accept the pivot ball for the cross shaft. Adams' Apple38411.8560069444

____________________________________
Joel Adams
C3VR Lifetime Member #56    
My Link


(click for Texas-sized view!)
             NCRS

"Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comforting to cry in a CORVETTE than in a Kia"
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
2/28/05 11:59pm - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
cthulhu Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


Hot Springs, AR - USA

Vette(s):
69 Conv #'s Match 427, TKO-600, 3.36HD-Posi, T/T, PS, PB, PW, SP, Lthr, Comp Mag 270 & Pro Rlr Rockers, Edel Air-Gap RPM, BG SD 750 MS, MSD 6AL+Tach Dist+ Blaster SS+Wires, Hly Bl Fuel Pump, K&N, Jet-Hot Hkr Side-Pipes,Steeroids, Al Rad, Spal Fans

Joined: 4/24/2004
Posts: 3194

the first pic on both of these pages should give you an idea where exactly it is

http://www.vetteprojects.com/cthulhu/images/frame-off/chassi s3/chassis3.html

http://www.vetteprojects.com/cthulhu/images/frame-off/chassi s2/chassis2.html

 



____________________________________
http://www.vetteprojects.com/bmv
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
3/1/05 12:59am - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
cthulhu Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


Hot Springs, AR - USA

Vette(s):
69 Conv #'s Match 427, TKO-600, 3.36HD-Posi, T/T, PS, PB, PW, SP, Lthr, Comp Mag 270 & Pro Rlr Rockers, Edel Air-Gap RPM, BG SD 750 MS, MSD 6AL+Tach Dist+ Blaster SS+Wires, Hly Bl Fuel Pump, K&N, Jet-Hot Hkr Side-Pipes,Steeroids, Al Rad, Spal Fans

Joined: 4/24/2004
Posts: 3194

and btw..  the bracket is 25.00$ from dr rebuild..  (part # 3851220)

i looked in the bairs catalog and didnt find it but they probably have it as well.



____________________________________
http://www.vetteprojects.com/bmv
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
3/1/05 8:51am - Reply: 'Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
problemenko
Former Member
- Send Private Message


Annandale, NJ - USA

Vette(s):
1979 White/Black

Joined: 10/14/2003
Posts: 221
Thanks for the good advice guys. I'm travelling on business the rest of the week and will check out the parts when I get a chance. 
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
6/13/14 2:34am - Reply: 'Re: Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
San Diego David
Former Member
- Send Private Message


Joined: 6/12/2014
Posts: 3
Hello Forum Members:  Please report any progress on your hydraulic clutch installation on your C3.  I am looking for additional information and possibly resources for a firewall hydraulic clutch conversion kit to support an ROD installation with Lakewood 15000 bell housing and Mcleod throw-out bearing/adjuster & spacer.  McLeod informed me yesterday the C3 firewall can not support a hydraulic clutch.  If your firewall was reinforced, please share any tips and cautions.  Thank you, David
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
6/13/14 12:55pm - Reply: 'Re: Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
Sarge81 Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


WEST SENECA, NY - USA

Vette(s):
1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.

Joined: 12/3/2001
Posts: 2377
There are lots of C3's running around with hydraulic clutch kits in them. I just finished up a LS6 Gen III engine with a kit from American Powertrain. The kit had stiffener plates that sandwich the firewall. Plus there isn't a lot of force being exerted on the pedal to disengage the clutch. 

____________________________________

GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
TKO500 5 spd.
3.54 Dana 44
'69 "N11" Sidepipes
Borgeson Steering Box
Born 8/1981
Sequence #3975




Click here to see more pics of my Vette on CarDomain.


Lifetime Member #26
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
6/15/14 6:56pm - Reply: 'Re: Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
aceinthehole Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


Valley Springs, CA - USA

Vette(s):
1978,Metalic Money Green W/Gold emblems,TH350 w/gear splitter,black & grey interior.1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold ,Doeskin interior,auto. trans. 1981, Silver w/mirrored T-Tops,4 spd, charcoal interior.

Joined: 11/20/2005
Posts: 3618
You know, it occurs to me that I had an episode with the bellcrank anchor on my '81 when we were up in Carson city for the '07 Gathering. The nylon ball that supports the outboard side (left) of the clutch pedal linkage broke off but, lodged against itself and was still barely functioning. When we got back home I dug in, and when I pressure washed the grease out of the way I was surprised to find two bolts anchoring that piece down to the frame. I took it to a friend who rewelded it stronger than stock, and I just rebolted to the frame, SWEET ! My '78s both are auto. trans. so I have nothing to compare for that year.

____________________________________
Jimmy B.
Just can't wait to get on the road again.

 
                             Click to see larger views!
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
6/15/14 6:58pm - Reply: 'Re: Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
aceinthehole Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


Valley Springs, CA - USA

Vette(s):
1978,Metalic Money Green W/Gold emblems,TH350 w/gear splitter,black & grey interior.1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold ,Doeskin interior,auto. trans. 1981, Silver w/mirrored T-Tops,4 spd, charcoal interior.

Joined: 11/20/2005
Posts: 3618
 OOPS ! But if you're going hydraulic, you won't be worried about any of that.

____________________________________
Jimmy B.
Just can't wait to get on the road again.

 
                             Click to see larger views!
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
6/21/14 2:14am - Reply: 'Re: Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
San Diego David
Former Member
- Send Private Message


Joined: 6/12/2014
Posts: 3
Sarge81:  Thank you for the American Powertrain lead! 
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
6/21/14 9:25am - Reply: 'Re: Hydraulic Clutch and Bellhousing'
Sarge81 Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
- Send Private Message


WEST SENECA, NY - USA

Vette(s):
1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.

Joined: 12/3/2001
Posts: 2377
San Diego David said: Sarge81:  Thank you for the American Powertrain lead! 

Glad I could help ya. Thumbs Up



____________________________________

GEN III 5.7L "LS6" Engine swap
TKO500 5 spd.
3.54 Dana 44
'69 "N11" Sidepipes
Borgeson Steering Box
Born 8/1981
Sequence #3975




Click here to see more pics of my Vette on CarDomain.


Lifetime Member #26
 Reply Reply  Quote Reply w/Quote
 New Topic New Topic Post Reply Reply New Poll New Poll Search     Search Page [1]  
 Forums -> C3 Driveline Components
(Moderator: Adam Wartell, Norsky, Adams' Apple)
 

 
Official C3 Vette Registry Community:
Home | Forums | Email | Who's Online | Clubs | Events | Member Stats

Other Official C3 Vette Registry Areas:
Members | Research | Shop | My Account | About C3VR
 

Corvette is a registered trademark of the General Motors Corporation(GM) & Chevrolet Motor Division. Vette Registries, LLC is responsible for all site content (except for member submitted content or where otherwise noted) and does not claim or imply that Chevrolet or GM is responsible for Official C3 Vette Registry content. Vette Registries, LLC is independent from GM and is not affiliated with, sponsored or supported by GM.  Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended, or implied and are in fact used to support GM, Chevrolet and Corvette

Official C3 Vette Registry content is Copyright 2001-2018, Vette Registries, LLC. Content may not be reused without written consent. All Rights Reserved. NS

Corvette (Vette) Model Years on this site: 1968 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 30