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6/24/10 8:31pm - Original Message: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Well I am sitting here on the side of the road with smoke coming out of my left rear tire..I think a wheel bearing is dead..no fun..waiting for a tow truck and a lot of parts and tools from Mid America! I love that list!
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6/24/10 10:34pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Well that sux a big fat one!
Hope you weren't too far from home! If yer lucky, it may just be a brake problem, but....the rear bearings can fail at any time, and it ain't never cheap once all the smoke has come out! New parts will have the smoke already installed.

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6/24/10 11:03pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Wow sorry man. It's something we all worry about with these old beauties.  But at least you can buy a plain old bearing. Had a bearing go out in our Cherokee and had to buy the hub and everything else attached to that darn bearing.....ouchConfused
Hope you make out ok, good luck and let us know the results.
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6/25/10 12:15pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Great lookin' car Rich. I can see why that would "talk to ya". A good friend of mine (and C3VR member) just picked up one that looks very similar to that and I can definately tell you it was talkin' to me Wink.  OOOPS! and, very sorry to hear about the roadside emergency. Please tell us how the story turns out.aceinthehole2010-06-25 09:18:15

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6/25/10 9:18pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Sorry to hear abour your problem. Hope you get it figured out and back on the road.
 
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6/25/10 11:24pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Well I got it apart tonight when we got home and it turned out the inner wheel bearing dried up and went away..only took about and hour with help from the kidsLOL..didn't need the fancy tool from Mid America..next will be doing it over on the other side and re packing the front..make the list as short as possible..should be moving by TuesdayTongue

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6/25/10 11:36pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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OH MY GOSH. Bet you had Cheech and Chong beat with their "Up In Smoke" lol

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6/26/10 3:11pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Sorry to hear of you trouble hope you get back on the road soon,we took mine apart and found nothing wrong. I am hopeing that the noise was part of the brake problem I just fixed.After we put it back together no noise.By the way I was in your neck of the woods today went to the fea market on Lincoln Hwy.
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6/26/10 4:07pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Hope everything goes back together for you. Glad to see you found the problem and it seems inexpensive for you to repair. What part of York are you in? I am just below you in Red Lion.
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6/26/10 4:33pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Them there is some Kentucy Fried bearings!!! Dead

Good thing you caught it!!  Havin yer rear wheels pass you up on the freeway is a revolting experience!!! Shocked


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6/26/10 11:13pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Hey Rodney,
I live up off the Trail behind the Manchester Township Building..we go to the show at the Giant and Shrewsbury--which we missedDead because of the bearing issue..we were at the Chevy dealer last Saturday..I should have all parts needed and done by Tuesday-according to Fedex!  Should be fun.
Hopefully catch you at one of those many shows or so this summer.Star
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6/28/10 9:10pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Hey everyone interested..I got the spindle cleaned up and threads chased ready to go back together tomorrow nightTongue--the parts are only 15 minutes away at the Fedex hub,,but I have to wait untill they deliver it,,I don't want to wait anymore! Any ideas on how to install the rivets to rotors???They are pretty hard steel ,,??


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6/28/10 10:49pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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The rivets were originally installed with a super large hydraulic press, and dies./bucks.
Why do you wanna put rivets back in? They're not totally necessary. I can't remember ever hearing of anyone going thru the hassle to put them back in once they were drilled/removed. I suppose it could be done, tho.


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6/28/10 10:56pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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I have no idea why I want to they are just there! I bought them can't be that hard to press down..I think I am really bored and like the abuse!

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6/28/10 11:01pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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I hear ya...
If you do it, you'll have to make sure the rotor, AND the spindle hub are perfectly clean of any rust/dirt/funk. Then, you'll need to secure the rotor to the spindle hub fairly tight before pounding/pressing the rivets. You could use the lug nuts installed backwards to do that.
IF you do decide to put them back in, please document the process with some pics, and post them here for the rest of us to see...I'm curious to see how it turns out.


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6/29/10 9:32pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Well the story continues--I got my parts and tools from well a sponsor of this site and found a bunch of bearings and seals made in China and Tiwain-Ouch-WTF.  also missing the bearing set up tool that was orderedAngryit's not like these parts were cheap in price so I thought I would get something good-DENIED-  I called  local parts guys that I have accounts with and I found Timken bearings and seals are cheaper than the ones I ordered-and they are made here!  I really think the car deserves better than China knock offs.  Oh and since that set up tool that was supposed to be in the box and wasn't I have to wait till Friday now to put it all back together..I guess they will get there stuff back as quik as I get the tool from them..other than the tools which are excellent and high quality I wouldn't have ordered anything else from them if I knew what I was getting, a real let down.  I don't mean to bash them to much because the people I have talked to on the phone have all been really nice and somewhat knowledgable..BTW I did talk to a guy there that claims to have worked on corvettes for the last 36 years and he has never put the rivets back on the spindles??So why do they sell them..I will do it just to make it the way it left the factory back in 1969..even though I will be the only one to appreciate the end game.I made a tool today for my air hammer that will make quik work of it..It will be a long night Friday and hopefully Jack will be good to me.
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6/30/10 1:07pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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Remember that you need to get the end play between one and two thousands of an inch, or risk another failure.  The reasons to rivet the rotor on:  1. It looks original.  2.  You had the spindle and rotor turned together for 0 run out and want to keep it perfect.  3 You like the challenge of doing it.  If you don't rivet, it is a good idea to mark the pieces so it goes back together the same every time.

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6/30/10 1:21pm - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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I have been getting different numbers on that..up to 0.005". I like the 0.001" number best! Won't be that hard once I get the tool and I have 2 sets of shims. I bought the wheel bearing grease tool that I will be using everyday! This will not happen again..I am going to repack the front tonight since I can't so the rears yet. Should be a good weekend .
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7/1/10 11:41am - Reply: 'Let the smoke out!'
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You should grease the wheel bearing thoroughly with a good quality grease as you put them together.  If you keep packing more grease in after that, you will only blow out the seals.

I have heard that .005 is OK, but our rebuilder will not let one go out with more than .002, and we have never had one fail.

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Well I got it put back together and drove it around the nieghborhood at 1:30 am.  Didn't get to do the rivets because the rotors I wanted to use didn't have rivet holes--so I really think they are not neededCry wah wah I DESTROYED an air hammer bit just to do it- oh well maybe next time.  I am going to take it easy for a few short trips and see if it goes ok plus break in the new pads and rotors..oh and the I had to rebuild the rf caliper also tonight..getting really good at bleeding these things out..I smell like old grease and a wet dog---maybe I will sleep outside tonight--you know the saying goes "people who take baths everyday are to lazy to scratch!"Sleepy
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