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5/29/11 5:55pm - Original Message: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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When I started my car today, both the "CHOKE" indicator and the battery icon would not go 'off'.  In addition, the car is charging at about 13 amps, whereas it normally is charging about midway between 13 and 18.

The car starts right-up with no problem but I have no idea what is causing this sudden issue.
 
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5/29/11 10:02pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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I had the same problem with my 81.   I had to replace the alternator and then the problems went away!!  Maybe you need to do that also!!  It was nice meeting you Chuck!!

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5/29/11 10:55pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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Get the alternator checked may have a bad diode pack..you can just replace that if you want..real easy to do..and cheap..

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5/30/11 9:20am - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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Thanks for the tips guys. 
It was nice meeting everyone at MAM.  We had a great time.
 


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5/30/11 9:42am - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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Chuck, any major auto parts store can bench test it, just take it off and bring it to them.

I think you need to change your plate so they stop thinkin your car is a 81.......Wink

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5/30/11 10:14am - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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[QUOTE=ebo]

Chuck, any major auto parts store can bench test it, just take it off and bring it to them.

I think you need to change your plate so they stop thinkin your car is a 81.......Wink

Evil Smileebo
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Ebo,
Thanks for the tip.  I think I will take your advice and change the plate to "80 COUPE".


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5/30/11 10:39am - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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First check the connections at the alternator. If the plug, or the single red wire is loose, it can do this. Unplug the connector and re-connect it. Sometimes, they get a little corrosion, and can carry a little charge, but not a full current.
I've also seen blown fuses cause those lights to come on, as well as blown fuse-links.
Start with checking the connections and fuses, then test the alt...


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5/30/11 11:30am - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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[QUOTE=Adams' Apple]First check the connections at the alternator. If the plug, or the single red wire is loose, it can do this. Unplug the connector and re-connect it. Sometimes, they get a little corrosion, and can carry a little charge, but not a full current.
I've also seen blown fuses cause those lights to come on, as well as blown fuse-links.
Start with checking the connections and fuses, then test the alt...
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Will do.
 
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5/30/11 12:15pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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The red wire at the back of the alt should have battery voltage at all times.  The red wire or white wire ( same thing ) on the alt plug should also have battery power at all times.  The smaller brown wire on the side plug will have limited power when plugged in with the key on, and 12 volts when unplugged.  This wire is from the dash fuse labled inst or gauges in most cases.   The alternator can self excite, like a single wire unit, and charge somewhat.  This backfeeds the fuse circuit and makes other things on the circuit operate when the fuse is blown.   And yes, it can be a bad alternator regulator, but that does not usually turn on the choke light.

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5/30/11 1:40pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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Thanks.  I'll check those things, too.
 
This is what makes this forum so great: so many people who are more than willing to help.
 
Thanks, again.


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5/30/11 1:42pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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I've also seen blown fuses cause those lights to come on, as well as blown fuse-links.
Start with checking the connections and fuses, then test the alt...
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Not to show my ignorance, but what is a "fuse link" and where are they located.
 
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5/30/11 11:54pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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A fuseable link or fuse link is a piece of special wire.  Depending on it's size, length and gauge, it will act like a fuse.  The difference is it can carry much more amperage, and is slower to blow than a regular fuse.   There are two of them comming from the battery terminal on the starter that feed most other things in the car.    They have eylets on the starter terminal, the look like regular wire, then about a foot away from the starter or a bit less, there is a splice connector turning back into regular wire.
 
A fuseable link can blow and still have the wire insulation intact.  Sometimes you can feel a very soft spot in the insulation due to the fact the wire is gone from inside.   Other times you need a volt meter or a test light to check a blown link.


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5/31/11 8:06am - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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Here's a couple of different pics of fuse-links...

Fuse link 1

Fuse link 2

The first pic shows a couple of links behind the distributor. The second pic shows one link, but if you look, you can see where a couple of fuse-links have been removed, and the wires(a red and a yellow) spliced back together, and wrapped with tape. In that pic, the links are on the driver side, up under the fender, by the wiper washer bottle. There are more fuse-links down by the starter, also, as Ken said. Different cars will have a different number of links, and different locations, depending on options(A/C, rear defog, etc).
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5/31/11 8:20pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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I found the problem. 
 
Turns out that the single red wire connection was loose.  Visually, it seemed fine but on closer inspection it was loose.  Not a lot but enough to cause the problem.  I tightened it up and no more battery icon and the "choke" indicator light goes out when the engine warms up.  While I was at it, I checked the plug connector, also.  It was full of grime so I cleaned it out.
 
I want to thank everyone for their very helpful suggestions.  Like I said before, this forum is great!
 
Thanks so much.


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5/31/11 10:43pm - Reply: 'Choke & Battery Indicators On'
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