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5/23/11 3:24pm - Original Message: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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OK here comes some fun, I so hate electrical problems!Angry
Just went to start the car to wash off the bugs....its dead....fried another coil! Ken called and said I have a grounding problem. I'm off to borrow an ohm meter.
I know when I first went to start the car this season the battey was dead. And now while I think of it the battery before that would die quite often.
The tach has not worked for a while.
So throw out all the stuff you think I need to remove and clean......
 
The good news is the car got me home and into the garage before it totally quit....
I'm still smileing just a small speed bump thats all.......
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5/23/11 8:13pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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Glad you made it home with out a repeat of the earlier meltdown.
Besides cleaning grounding connections, the cables themselves can have corrosion inside the cable that can increase it,s resistance to the point yhat the current is nill. If you see green crude inside the jacketing you may want to replace that wire/cable.  Check the resisitance of the wire with the meter.
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5/23/11 8:19pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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I'm still battling my own electrical gremlins. Yer on yer own brother! lol.

Check the ground strap from the firewall to the engine. And then check out negative battery. Other than that...I dunno.


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5/23/11 8:32pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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This is fun!! So are you SURE its the coil or is it the china module?? Lol..blowing a coil is a tough thing to do..either you have low primary voltage or high voltage drop on the ground..why is your battery dead??. What's drawing down..pull fuses untill you get low draw... 5 millivolt max..new cars are half that so it should be very low..chances are the coil had low kv output by the time you got home..you just didn't notice it..you put new wires on not long ago so I dought they are bad..is the wiring inside the distributor ok..sometimes the pick up coil does some weird stuff..I had one that threw a fit and would not allow the car to start..a little work to install but it is one constant with your car..oh and don't borrow a dvom..just buy one..your gonna need it..again..and again..and again..

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5/23/11 8:58pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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I'll work some more on it tomorrow nite, had to get some yard work in before 10 more days of rain. It's pouring here ...again!
So glad we did not get the rain that Ill and Ohio is getting now!
Wow
Car was running rougher along the way, just glad she got us home before it quit.
So what time will you be getting here tomorrow Rich?
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5/23/11 9:06pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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So mowed the lawn..chopped up some trees and now its fire up the smoker time??

Well I did find out why the ice cream bucket wouldn't freeze right..got a real big leak on the bottom..so I may retire that one or try and band it tighter..yes that's a torch thing again..if you get into the car tomorrow night give me a buzz..might be able to walk thru some stuff..might convert it over to points..man they a really easy!!

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5/26/11 4:44pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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Always make sure you put this secondary ground clip in your cap under the coil........or it Will Burn Out Coils....Again and Again!!! ebo u dummy u Ouch
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5/26/11 5:22pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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So it was self inflicted..try taking some pics of stuff before you take things apart..its nice to see things zoom in and zoom out!! And I always use my favorite saying when someone tells me they fixed the problem..ARE YOU SURE?? I always get the confused look.

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5/26/11 5:36pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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Sure??? with these cars........LOL 
I think that solves this part of the coil puzzel, looking back all the ignition pboblems all started after my fantastic tune up!!!
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That was the first HEI tune up I have ever done. When I was asked if I had the secondary ground starp on I thought it was the bracket's around the coil. When I put the new cap on I ASSumed it was complete and did not need any parts taken out of the old oneConfusedOuchAngry
 
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5/26/11 6:06pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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So, Alan, you are the new "Master of Disaster"! All your problems were caused by yourself! Makes the blame game no fun. Glad you got it sorted out! Hopefully no more roadside repairs for you!  
 
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5/26/11 6:10pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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Everyone. ...1..2....3eeeee ....push!!

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5/26/11 6:34pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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[QUOTE=Jaws79]So, Alan, you are the new "Master of Disaster"! All your problems were caused by yourself! 
 
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Yes that B true!
Now hopefully someone learns by my mistake......
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5/26/11 7:37pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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we appreciate the sacrifices you make for the rest of us Thumbs Up Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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5/26/11 7:51pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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You got it! How many would admit sumptin like datLOL
I'm here for ya's
Now you all need to know who really gets the credit for this....SRJ he was over my shoulder and pointed that out to me!
Thanks jim!
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Can't beat that kind of guidance ..

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5/26/11 8:07pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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Never noticed it was missing Al ! Haste makes waste !!!  Ouch

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EBO, EBO, EBO !!  My brother, what are you doinmg to that nice car??  1st a tail light bulb and now this??Rolling On The Floor Laughing  You got a shop manual for that baby??  Tell me whats happening, I wanna help out Misses EBO !!!!  Nothin but love for them EBO-etts!!!
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5/26/11 10:22pm - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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I thought you said that thing was melted when you opened it up when it broke down on ya? Or was that someone else?

Without that ground tang, the coil basically has NO ground....it will back-ground thru the coil/module. Annudder tip too...when you install a new coil or re-install an old one, be sure that the ground wire with the eyelet(on the coil itself) goes to the same screw that goes thru that terminal in your pic. That will give the coil the best ground possible, and not force the ground circuit to go thru the casing of the coil.

Glad ya got it figured out.....silly boy! It's ALWAYS the simple stuff that gets ya....


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5/27/11 9:12am - Reply: 'Path of least resistance UpDated'
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Joel coil was fried, I "Borrowed" one off the other car just to get it started and in it;s own stall as we was spose to get hail last night and did not want my Burb sitting out side any longer. Guna take the fried coil back to store and see if they will exchange Big smile
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Most parts stores will not take back any electrical parts, but you can try. Glad you made it home and glad you finnaly got it fixed. I can give you a meter, I got about 4 of them. I'll bring it up when we come up for the show at the lake.
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