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6/23/13 7:18am - Original Message: 'Rookie Mistake'
dbarnesid
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1972 mille miglia red corvette convertible. This is a car currently under restoration. The pic above is of me and my Ph.D. candidate daughter. She, not my Vette, is my pride and joy. Smile...

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Doing a carpet install. While I'm at it repainting my console. Forgot to disconnect the battery. Oops, accidentally made contact between gauge cluster and radio. A beautiful plume of smoke emanated from my battery gauge and my temp gauge pegged. Willcox gets $59 richer and I learned a valuable lesson. Always disconnect the battery! I fired up the car the temp gauge seems to work. Battery gauge is reading zero no matter the rpms. I hope all I have to do is replace the battery gauge. Does that sound right to you electrical experts? I should replace the clock now. But money must go elsewhere. That's a project for another day.

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6/23/13 9:09am - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Worcester, MA - USA

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Here's a another rookie mistake which, thankfully didn't result in a trip to the ER.
I was tuning my carburetor from the passenger side of the car and reached over to goose the throttle.  Luckily I sort of reached around the carb and not directly over because the resulting pop and fireball that shot up would have left a pretty nasty burn on my forearm. 

So here we have the beginnings of probably a pretty handy list:
1) always disconnect the battery when messing with wires.
2) never reach over an open carburetor of a running engine


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6/23/13 2:30pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Woodland, WA - USA

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I believe their is a fusible link in that circuit at the starter I will keep looking To see if I can pin it down if no one chimes in with better info

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6/24/13 7:18am - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Boise, ID - USA

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1972 mille miglia red corvette convertible. This is a car currently under restoration. The pic above is of me and my Ph.D. candidate daughter. She, not my Vette, is my pride and joy. Smile...

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BigShoes16 said: Here's a another rookie mistake which, thankfully didn't result in a trip to the ER.
I was tuning my carburetor from the passenger side of the car and reached over to goose the throttle.  Luckily I sort of reached around the carb and not directly over because the resulting pop and fireball that shot up would have left a pretty nasty burn on my forearm. 

So here we have the beginnings of probably a pretty handy list:
1) always disconnect the battery when messing with wires.
2) never reach over an open carburetor of a running engine



Nice list. I'll bet it grows!

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6/24/13 9:09pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of it's life, My wife purchased it for me for fathers day in 2007 from her girl friend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.

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Taking the center gauge cluster off without taking pictures so I would know where all of the insulators and spacers would go. 
Lesson Learned: Always take lots of pictures digital pictures are cheap.

Taking off the intake manifold assuming I could easily find the torque and torque pattern.   Adam to the rescue on that one.  
Lesson learned: Have all of the tools and information available before you start.  You will still be short something but at least you have a chance.



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6/25/13 7:39pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Zachary, LA - USA

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1974 L-48 Auto. Just your basic Vette. GM crate motor w/vortec heads and intake. Crane cam. Scorpion rockers, Edelbrock carb. Lots of parts still in boxes... :(

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How about installing a very lubed up push rod, and letting it slip out of your fingers to land nicely inside the cylinder head? 

I taught myself some new curse words as I tried to fish it out with a small magnet...


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6/25/13 9:51pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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York, PA - USA

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1969 daytona conv. all original 350 350 380 4 sp w/air..and hard top

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Tough to say if you burned up the gauge or a wire that feeds it...you would have to test the wire to see if it is fried...as far as mistakes....I could write a book!! The latest which happened last week...6 speed push button start car....tech drives car in to check codes....leaves it in gear and hooks up computer hits the button to turn it on and it starts and drives into the shop tool box and almost breaking the tech's left foot in the process...car needs front bumper and reinforcement beam...he didn't push the clutch in so it should not have started...we thanked the advisor for forgetting to write down that that's why the car was there...and not an engine light.

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6/26/13 6:16pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of it's life, My wife purchased it for me for fathers day in 2007 from her girl friend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.

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Darryl & Rich

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6/27/13 12:07pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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yostusota said:we thanked the advisor for forgetting to write down that that's why the car was there...and not an engine light.


OH...the stories we could tell, eh Rich?!
I've made so many "rookie" mistakes in my lifetime, I can't remember them all. One time, I had to tear a transmission back down 4 times to install the same dang part.....I forgot to put it in the first time, so I took it back apart, put it back together again...and left the same part still sitting on the bench. Did that 4 times before I finally managed to remember to put the dang part IN.....talk about brain farts.....Wacko


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6/27/13 12:15pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Now that's funny!! I did a floor harness in a 13 genesis today and forgot to plug in the third brake light.....which meant taking apart the entire rear interior again...got lucky though and the wire was just hanging out the one hole the rear deck had.

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7/3/13 5:46pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Boise, ID - USA

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1972 mille miglia red corvette convertible. This is a car currently under restoration. The pic above is of me and my Ph.D. candidate daughter. She, not my Vette, is my pride and joy. Smile...

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Oh great! So I may have made another rookie mistake. The new gauge should arrive today. With my luck I'll find that the gauge is not the problem.  
 
So this mistake is ASSUMING that the smoke coming from the gauge meant the gauge was bad. Never crossed my mind that it could be a feeder wire. Confused
 
Sheesh. This car is to be my retirement present/project. So learning is just part of the process and part of the joy of classic corvette ownership... I think.


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7/3/13 7:46pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Zachary, LA - USA

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1974 L-48 Auto. Just your basic Vette. GM crate motor w/vortec heads and intake. Crane cam. Scorpion rockers, Edelbrock carb. Lots of parts still in boxes... :(

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dbarnesid said: This car is to be my retirement present/project...


There is no such thing as being retired when you own a Classic Corvette!  She'll always have something to eat up your free time.


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7/8/13 8:10pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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68 COUPE 454 HAS MOTION HOOD SCOOP, REVERSED GILLS ZL-1 FENDER FLARES AND MOTION REAR SPOILER, LEMAN'S GAS CAP, BUCKET HEADLIGHTS. CAN-AM FRONT RACING SPOILER. CHROME HOOKER HEADERS AND SIDE PIPES! 4 SPEED M20, LOOKS FAST STANDING STILL !!

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dyoes said:
dbarnesid said: This car is to be my retirement present/project...


There is no such thing as being retired when you own a Classic Corvette!  She'll always have something to eat up your free time.

AND your free MONEY !!!!
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7/10/13 1:01pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Boise, ID - USA

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1972 mille miglia red corvette convertible. This is a car currently under restoration. The pic above is of me and my Ph.D. candidate daughter. She, not my Vette, is my pride and joy. Smile...

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Yeah, there IS the money part.
 
Good news though. I ordered the new battery gauge... and it worked! So my lesson has been learned. Don't do anything that is anywhere near anything electrical with the battery connected. It's probably best to remove the darned thing from the car!
 
Now if I could get any of the cabin lights to work. (Well... all of the dash lights work but none of the courtesy lights come on. This is most frustrating.) Fortunately, getting the lights to work won't likely eat up my pension. Fixing the bird cage rot might. Cry


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7/10/13 1:52pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Yes, i've had many many mistakes or oops moments...here are two:

1. Putting a new intake manifold on a 67 camaro.  I'm all finished and get in to start the car and she turns over doesn't start.  I check the plugs real quick and try again..nada.  Geez, I smell gas and 'pop', the little light goes on over my head.  I forgot to hook up the gas line to the carb.  Gas everywhere.  I calmly walk into the house grab a fire extinguisher and tell my boys to follow me into the garage with the wife watching me with increasing concern.  We pushed the car out and kitty littered the gas.

2. Checking wires on a 1972 LTD convertible.  Guess what happens when you help arc one of the bad spark plug wires.  Found myself sitting on my arse, shaking my head wondering how I got there.


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7/10/13 2:23pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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I wuz watching a video the other day that someone had forwarded to me. It was a feller installing a new head on a car. So...the guy puts the head on, bolts it down, and torques it....the guy that sent me the link wuz laffin his butt off, because the guy doing the job dint put the head gasket on.LOL

 I was more interested in the fact that there was still a RED RAG stuffed down in one of the cylinders when he put the head on....Ermm


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7/13/13 2:23pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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Put a battery disconnect on the car and disconnect it every time you drive the car unless you drive it everyday.  This will keep the battery charged for a long time and the system will never be live until you connect the battery.  The clock will eventually drain the battery.  OK, so you have to reset the clock, if it works, each time you drive the car.  The battery will last longer.

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7/26/13 1:00pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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I was re-installing the head on a FIAT 124 sport coupe after replacing the head gasket. I went to install the air cleaner housing where the air intake looped over the top of the head. Promptly dropped a metal bushing from the from the air cleaner assembly down the number two spark plug hole into the cylinder. Luckily, I was able to fish the bushing out of the cylinder using a magnet taped to the end of a coat hanger. Lesson learned: before installing anything with little tiny metal parts that can fall through spark plug holes, install the plugs as soon as you are done torquing the head!

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7/27/13 4:08pm - Reply: 'Re: Rookie Mistake'
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sundew said: I was re-installing the head on a FIAT 124 sport coupe...


Arghh, a FIAT!  An old girlfriend of my from many years ago had a FIAT 131S.  What an utterly craptacular car.  But it wouldn't die and was fun to drive!  I did several electrical patches on it to keep various systems working.  If it survived the crusher, I'm the "Bubba" that some guy is cussing about today.


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