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6/27/13 6:27pm - Original Message: 'Start Button'
John's Corvette
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hi everybody! New challenge for you guys! i want to install an starter button on my vette 81! I have no idea on colors of cables for the connection. For the black one, no problem! there's anyone who could tell me the color of the others cables where I could connect them? I want use the "direct wiring method". You can look the instructions on this picture! thank's for your help!

Jean, the frenchy!!!




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6/27/13 9:48pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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I will try to look at this further when I get time but here is the elec connection from the 81 elec diagram which you can study
 
 


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6/28/13 11:58am - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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My first question is...WHY?! Is this an anti-theft device?
The diagram from the manufacturer is confusing as heck. "Blue wire here, another blue wire there, red wire here"
The line drawing in the black box makes no sense at all, as you do need to cut the wires on the vehicle harness....but the diagram only shows one wire in the "Start"(ST) circuit.....where the heck is the other wire that actually sends power to the starter solenoid?
If you can take a picture of the actual box you have, it might help to make sense of it.
I'm usually pretty good at wiring diagrams, but this......not a clue!

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6/28/13 9:09pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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Yes Adam, I admit that a little confusing! and thank's rraider1 for this diagram!!
In fact, it's just a button to start the car. You can find this in newer cars or supercars! you use the key of the vehicle normally until contact and press the button to start the starter! No need to cut the cables, only use the supplied accessories! here is a picture of the housing.








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6/28/13 9:07pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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6/28/13 9:29pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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Best I can tell, it needs to be connected like this.





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6/29/13 11:43am - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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Won't help you with your wiring issues, but I thought this vid of a '74 with a start button showed a cool way to implement it.  Also demonstrates the cool (but loud) sound of a Vette with chambered exhaust.  





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6/29/13 1:57pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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I think your right Joel the blue wires most likely are the relay contacts, the red wire power for the relay in the box. black ground  Not sure why the wire to the push sw has three wires it would energize the relay, unless it is lighted the third would power a light in the sw.
and as you show if the wire for the start sol is not interrupted (cut) the key switch would still start it.


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6/29/13 4:53pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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I like the video.  Nice sound.

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6/29/13 7:47pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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Yes good example in this video, too bad i can not see if he uses only the button to start or with the key and after the button!

in the example of drawing, the cables are no cuts. there is one LED inside who enlighten when the button is pressed!

Adam, if you think this is the right way to connect, in two weeks, I'm on vacation and I'll try to see if it works!


how are you GIL??


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6/29/13 10:25pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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I'm doing good and he did turn the key on before he pushed the button.  Look quickly at the start of the video and you can see min turn the key.  I would have miss it but earlier you stated that you had to turn the key on so I was watching for it.

I told you there were some smart guys on this site that would have your answer.  I had no idea someone would come up with a video of the push button start system installed.

Wife is still talking about coming back to France but I do not think it will be this year.







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6/30/13 1:23am - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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Gilbert, I found that vid a few years ago when I was looking for vettes with a cam I was thinking of using. I remembered the start button and his question triggered that memory. And I agree, he did turn the key which I am sure energizes the ignition system. Jean, that's really cool that you have a vette in France! Bet you get a lot of stares. Hard to get parts? Expensive to fill up? Good luck with the start button - you should your own YouTube vid when you get it working.

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6/30/13 7:25pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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Thank you all for your help!  Many people turn their heads when they see you drive an american car, especially the Corvette! But most of the French do not like cars at their fair values ​​and they do not have your culture of the car. To me, you are the pioneers! I would have loved to live in the USA just to hear the V8 to every streets corners
For parts, I order ESSENTIALLY on Eckler's, Zipcorvette and Ebay Motors! The shipping costs increase the price of the parts by two but when you love, you do not count! we have only one life, is not it? I make a video of the result when it's finish and i post here! Good day to all 

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6/30/13 8:30pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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To put it simply, you wire it like you would a race car. A simple push button switch wired between the starter solenoid and hot battery cable on the starter, and disconnecting the original wire going to starter solenoid...that will do it. We wired our street stock race cars this way after stripping out the interior and dash. We used a simple on/off switch to power the ignition.

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6/30/13 10:54pm - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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Dan, from another perspective...wouldn't it be the same as a remote starter switch like this:
 
 
I would think if someone was so inclined you could mount this the same way the guy in the video.
 


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7/1/13 8:24am - Reply: 'Re: Start Button'
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dads2vette said: Dan, from another perspective...wouldn't it be the same as a remote starter switch like this:
 
 
I would think if someone was so inclined you could mount this the same way the guy in the video.
 

You are exactly correct...a remote start switch serves the same purpose...just not as pretty Big smile



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