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5/1/11 12:39am - Original Message: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
daveo76
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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Picked up a set of 062 Vortecs and matching GMPP aluminum manifold today from a Craigslist seller.  Everything looks to be in pretty good shape (although the heads will get a valve job, re-spring, screw-in studs, etc) and I'm pretty excited about the setup.  My plan was to use the stock air cleaner ass'y or similar, but I do have some concerns about clearance with the stock hood.  I've read a few posts on this site and others about clearance problems and dropped-base air cleaners, but after some measuring today I think there's a chance I'll be OK.  The manifold I bought is similar to this one, but I think mine is an older version:


The reason I think I'm OK is that lining it up with a regular Edelbrock Performer it appears as if the carb base is at exactly the same height - almost as if it was designed to match.  And it seems like a lot of guys have switched to Performers on otherwise stock setups without problems.  But they both are about a 1/2" higher than the original GM cast iron manifold.  Is there any clearance at all on the stock setups?  
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5/1/11 10:51am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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I can speak only of my experience with the '78 L82 I used to own.  This was with stock heads, not Vortec.  I installed a Performer intake and it worked fine.  It was slightly higher and pushed the stock air cleaner into the hood insulation a bit, but no big deal.  The Performer also places the carburetor slight further back, closer to the distributor.  No problems, though, but one of the cold air duct hoses was slightly stretched to connect.  Again...no big deal.

The Performer was a positive addition.


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5/1/11 11:07am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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Excellent, pretty much what I was thinking would be the case.  Thanks!

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5/1/11 10:44pm - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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Dont be slammin that hood down till you triple check the clearanceConfused

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5/3/11 1:47am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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Yep, I'm thinking a little modeling clay might be in order!  

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5/3/11 10:31pm - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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[QUOTE=daveo76]Yep, I'm thinking a little modeling clay might be in order!  [/QUOTE]
That's what I did. Located it at several areas around the air filter housing. I also went to a button head screw in place of the wing nut with threaded rod.

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5/4/11 12:38am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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So which manifold are you running, Suncountry?   And with the stock air cleaner?  

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5/5/11 1:05am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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I copied this from an earlier post I did on this subject.
 
 
I am running a GMPP 350HO vortec heads a RPM manifold with a Berry Grant 650 dbl pumper carb. I had to go with a drop base air filter housing and I think the K&N is 3" tall. Just barely clears the hood.
I also add I have a 1/2" carb spacer so the accelerator pump clears the manifold. I am using a button head screw to hold the air cleaner on. Here is a picture of the setup
The filter in the one picture came with the assembly with I changed out for the K&N. I also did not use the bow-tie wing nut to hold the filter down.
 
 


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5/6/11 2:15am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Thanks for the info and pics.  Your engine bay looks great!  

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5/9/11 11:55am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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We are running into the same problem
I have seen a dual snorkle carb hat that fits the 4bbl
The carb hat is only 3 1/2" tall from the ring of the carb. Thats about all the clearance I have
It just touches the hood when it's closed. I dont need a hold down bolt. The hood holds it in place..... untill I break a motor mount.
 


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5/10/11 2:18am - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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What carb and manifold is that, Stingray Don?  That carb doesn't look familiar.....

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5/10/11 12:15pm - Reply: 'vortec heads/manifold and air cleaner clearance'
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The carb is an old Webber 9635 650 CFM, It still needs a little work but seems to be a good carb
The intake is an offenhauser Port Sonic Between the two they handle the cam pretty well. It will  load up if it sits and idles.

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