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11/9/07 2:09pm - Original Message: 'Winterizing'
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Erda, UT - USA

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1973 coupe. LS4, M-21, DARK SADDLE LEATHER, POWER STEERING, POWER BRAKES, POWER WINDOWS, A/C, AM/FM STEREO, YELLOW ( 952 ).

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In the winter I usually will put my car up on jacks. Do you guys(and gals) think that this is a waste of time. I've heard that just sitting is hard on the tires, bearings, springs, etc. What I wonder about is it hard on the car to have the suspension sag. The tires have been on the car for many years now. Even though they show little signs of wear , I was thinking that they seemed a little bumpy this summer when I drove it. I had them rebalanced, with trim rings and caps on, but, they still seemed not quite as smooth as they used to. Suspension is tight. Do you think that these tires just tend to go lumpy because the car sits so much?
One other thing.................WINTER REALLY SUCKS!!!!! Thank God for Lake Mead.
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11/9/07 3:37pm - Reply: 'Winterizing'
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Tucson, AZ - USA

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1970 White L-46 Air Roadster, 1971 White LT1 Coupe, 1971 Red Auto Air Coupe, 383 stroker, 430 HP, 2002 Millennium Yellow Auto Coupe

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These are the steps I take to winterize:
 
1. open Garage door.
2. Pull Vettes out.
3. Drive the things. ( After all its not 110 Degrees anymore)!
 
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11/9/07 3:47pm - Reply: 'Winterizing'
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Flanders, NJ - USA

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1982 Black, ZZ4, Hooker Side Pipes, 3.55 Rear, Rebuilt & upgraded 700R4, All new suspension, brakes, & new Charcoal interior.

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I never jack mine up for the winter. I don't feel it hurts anything to leave it sit normally. I use mine in the winter as long as it's clear and dry and no salt on the roads. There is one thing we all agree on "Winter Sucks".
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11/9/07 4:03pm - Reply: 'Winterizing'
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Summerville, SC - USA

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My 1974 Vette sold last August 2014. I am still willing to show up to events and local gatherings if anything happening No new vette yet.

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i leave mine on the ground. i roll it in to the garage. i put an incredibly soft cover on it to protect it and not scratch it. and i just let her sit thru the winter. If anything i start it up once a week or so to keep the oil and other fluids in good condition. but it never leaves its garage till ice is no longer in the weather forecast.

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11/9/07 5:34pm - Reply: 'Winterizing'
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SOLD - "The Toy" - 1970 Convertible
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Lots of discussions on winterizing in various forum threads. 
 
I keep the toys on the ground all the time they're in storage but I do pump the tires up to 45/50 psi.  I've not had a problem with the tires flat spotting.  Just need to remember to reset the tire pressure in the spring...!!!


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8/30/14 8:07am - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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what about engine additives to reduce moisture in the fuel.  Also how to protect the carb?

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8/30/14 8:59am - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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C(6-5+2)VR - 1964 convertible 327/365 & 2003 convertible - 50th Anniversary Edition & 2010 3LT Coupe

Joined: 10/15/2007
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"The tires have been on the car for many years now"

Time to check the dates and get fresh tires - members here have had failures on olde tires.

I like the other recommendations also - drive it.


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8/30/14 5:22pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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Wichita, KS - USA

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2005 Daytona Sunset Orange Coupe ----------- Sold 1974 T-top, 4 spd to BillKS

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Sig said:

what about engine additives to reduce moisture in the fuel.  Also how to protect the carb?


As far as the engine, I change the oil, then put in StaBil gas conditioner and fill the tank.  I do drive in the winter as long as the weather allows; no snow, ice or even rain.  I feel it keeps everything lubricated and the tires, hoses and brakes exercised. 
 
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8/31/14 1:09pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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We all have our own winter routines, here in Upstate New York we could see snow as early as mid October. Mine gets topped off with fuel, stabil added, Tires pumped up. I bought a car bag a few years ago and I love it, inexpensive and really protects the car from dust and critters. I lay down the bag, put some old carpet under tires, back the car on it, throw some big bags of descant under it, unhook battery, put flannel cover on it, and zip up the bag.
A long time Corvette mechanic told me to not start the car during cold weather storage. he said all the moisture from warming up the motor and exhaust and frame around hot component's will only see more moisture and rust once it cools back down. My car is 34 years old and frame looks great.
Just my routine, works for me and I'm sticking to it.
And Agree for Vette owners....... winter sucks...... but our cars from the northern zone are always more desirable because of the short season and not driven anywhere for 6 months out of the year....... just sayin.....
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8/31/14 3:50pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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Ash Fork, AZ - USA

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As long as it's not slushy, I'm driving mine and I live just south of Buffalo, NY.

but that wasn't the question.
I have had quite a few cars that have been "winterized".  Use stabil if you're not going to drive it.  Check fluids.  I would not put the car on jack stands.  I have had cars sit for a couple of years in the same place while I do other things to them and have never had a tire get a flat or hard stuff.  This is my advice not gospel.  I think Joel mentioned pumping them up a little...that's a great idea.  This way if you do get a great few days you could always just turn the key and go.


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8/31/14 5:07pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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Sebago Lake, ME - USA

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1978 Silver Anniversary L82 4spd (M21) Red Leather. -1978 Pace Car L82 4spd (M21) 20k miles.

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I just put some stabilizer in the tank, fill it up (less space for condensation to form)and go for a ride to make sure it gets to the carb. Pump the tires to full pressure and store the battery where it's warm. If it's outside under a cover you may want to consider fogging the engine like they do to boats.
Like someone else has said, I would be concerned about the age of the tires.
BTW, I love Utah. Got family in Park City and get out there every year. This year we went down to Arizona and saw the GC and Lake Mead. Man, that's a lotta water and they said it's about 140 ft below full water.  

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9/1/14 8:58am - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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WEST SENECA, NY - USA

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1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.

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Winterizing the toys in Buffalo for me is:

Fill gas tank up and put in Sta-Bil.
Change oil and grease fittings.
Vacuum interior, clean windows, put dryer sheets/desiccant packs throughout interior.
Wash, dry and wax.
Pump up tires. 
Lay some plastic sheeting down to keep the moisture from concrete floor at bay.
Pull car in its spot.
Put dryer sheets around (cool) engine compartment.
Hook up a battery tender.
Throw the car cover on.
Then wait for spring again. Disapprove


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9/1/14 9:43am - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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Sarge81 said: Winterizing the toys in Buffalo for me is:Throw the car cover on.
Then wait for spring again. Disapprove



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9/1/14 1:07pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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dads2vette said:
Sarge81 said: Winterizing the toys in Buffalo for me is:Throw the car cover on.
Then wait for spring again. Disapprove



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Hey Dave, I need a winter car to bomb around in. I don't want my truck to get dirty this winter. Can I just borrow your vette? LOL



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9/1/14 4:19pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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Sarge81 said:
dads2vette said:
Sarge81 said: Winterizing the toys in Buffalo for me is:Throw the car cover on.
Then wait for spring again. Disapprove



Pansy


Hey Dave, I need a winter car to bomb around in. I don't want my truck to get dirty this winter. Can I just borrow your vette? LOL




Not sure if you'll remember how to start a non-computer controlled fuel injected car, but sure no problem. All these suggestions are very good. Hey, sarge have you ever noticed any dampness on you car when you use the plastic? I had a buddy use plywood to soak up any residual moisture. You can also use dessicant packs.

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9/1/14 5:31pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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 I never heard of a car bag before.  Good idea.  Where can I pick one up?

Thanks

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9/1/14 6:02pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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Sig said:

 I never heard of a car bag before.  Good idea.  Where can I pick one up?

Thanks




http://www.vehiclebags.com/

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9/1/14 7:12pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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dads2vette said:
Sarge81 said:
dads2vette said:
Sarge81 said: Winterizing the toys in Buffalo for me is:Throw the car cover on.
Then wait for spring again. Disapprove



Pansy


Hey Dave, I need a winter car to bomb around in. I don't want my truck to get dirty this winter. Can I just borrow your vette? LOL




Not sure if you'll remember how to start a non-computer controlled fuel injected car, but sure no problem. All these suggestions are very good. Hey, sarge have you ever noticed any dampness on you car when you use the plastic? I had a buddy use plywood to soak up any residual moisture. You can also use dessicant packs.

Once in awhile I notice some moisture. I try to air the garage out often and keep a old fan on low to move the air around. I real should do like Ebo and just buy a bag. That would be perfect.



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9/1/14 10:43pm - Reply: 'Re: Winterizing'
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Speaking of the bags. While at the NCM they had two models I hadn't seen before. One was a rectangular room that had inflated supports so that you could unzip an entrance and walk into the enclosure without it collapsing. This way you coupl keep it safe and work on it while in storage, $1500. Another was a stonger bag used for storing your car outside. It was not see through but instead solid beige, $695. I might still have the brochure I'll check around.

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