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11/29/10 11:24pm - Original Message: 'E Brake problems'
ricks79vette
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1979 T Top coupe 2001 Coupe

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My E brake actuating/lever will not stay engaged on the Brake shoes.  Works for about 10 times, then pops off.  (there does not seem to be any real "notch" to keep the brake shoe engaged with the actuator) I adjust them until I have good E Brake lever position and have replaced the Shoes, and springs.  I'm ready to remove the spindles and re-design the whole E-brake system or go crazy!  Any Ideas?



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11/30/10 6:55am - Reply: 'E Brake problems'
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1969 daytona conv. all original 350 350 380 4 sp w/air..and hard top

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Sounds like a frustrating day..are you talking about the e brake lever that you pull up to engage the parking brake??  it won't stay up or in a locked position???  or are we talking about a cable issue or a machanical issue at the actuator bar at the shoes??  Sounds like at the shoes themselves..ok does the cable pop off the actuator or the actuator pop off the shoes??  ok did the actuator pop off the shoes before or after you replaced all the ebrake parts??  if so then you may have swapped left side and right side actuators.. or just got them mixed up..if you got new ones then they were marked L and R..they are different...if it's something else let me know..just guessing now..
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11/30/10 10:35am - Reply: 'E Brake problems'
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Rich;
Thanks for the reply.
The Inside Pull Lever area is OK.  It is the Actuator Bar popping off the shoes themselves.  Did not change or remove the Actuator bar.    I was the first to remove the drum/rotor assys from the vehicle (92,000 miles.) so I had to drill out the rivets to remove the drums.  Replaced both calipers and pads, rotors were like new with no wear at all, but I had the Drum surfaces turned since I replaced the shoes.  Cables appear fine with plenty of adjustment (no problem getting a good "feel" on the E-Brake lever.)  There doesn't seem to be anything holding the actuator bar in place, in other words, no "notch" to keep it from moving in and out of the backing plate, nor is there any "keeper" to make it stay in place against the brake shoe.  That is the reason I am going to remove the spindles so I can see what is actually happening.   I've got plenty of time to do this as we have several inches of snow on the ground, so I'm not going anywhere in the vette.
 
FYI;  I've wanted a vette since I was 16, and had to wait til I was 59.   Favored the 69 to 82 body style and selected the 79.  Purchased from a collector last year who had it in storage for 13 years.  Leaked from every orifice possible.   I have replaced all the seals, Pumps, belts hoses, you name it.  No leaks now, but have to get the parking brake working as it has a 4 speed. 


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11/30/10 11:12am - Reply: 'E Brake problems'
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ok I thought this is what you were talking about..I just did the spindle and e brake stuff in May this year..I thought the same thing with the actuator also but I remember something I saw that held it in place..I think it was something on the shoe itself..I kept the old parts so I can look at them when I get home..FYI doing the spindles is a fun job..expect to replace the bearings and seals while you are in there..unless the bearings need replaced you can just grease the inner bearing and be done..I guess it depends on what you want to do..
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11/30/10 11:30am - Reply: 'E Brake problems'
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Thanks Rich.
 
I appreciate the help!   I will replace the bearings if they have any indication of wear, and of course I will replace the inner and outer seals for sure.  I have a lift in the basement, so doing the extra work is only time consuming, but not hard. 
 
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11/30/10 11:50am - Reply: 'E Brake problems'
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That's great to have a lift at home..I did mine on the garage floor..which I am not used to..I want to put one in the garage, I do have a high enough ceiling to do so..have you looked into the tools to do the job..wheel bearings..mid america motorworks has a real nice set up..look them up..oh the pic doesn't show//I think being a trail memeber it doesn't have the option..
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11/30/10 1:33pm - Reply: 'E Brake problems'
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[QUOTE=ricks79vette]Just curious - does the photo of my vette appear in the post?[/QUOTE]

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11/30/10 1:53pm - Reply: 'E Brake problems'
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Yes Joel you are the man!!!!  Got the picture working..
Ok so I went home for lunch since I am so busy..picked up the box of old parts..I still have the old springs also!!  Don't know why but I kept everything..so I looked at the shoes and it looks like the actuator is just notched in and held in place by the tension of the springs, that hold the shoes on, and backing plate..I would think then that the only thing that would allow them to pop off is the springs are to weak to hold the shoes tight to the backing plate..did the new springs look the same at least in height??  That's my best guess..maybe take a pic of it after it popped off..may be able to see something in there that's not right..the only other thing it may be is the rotors but I wouldn't bet the farm on that..what type of wear pattern do you have on the new shoes..does it look even all around??or just inside or outside on the shoe..top or bottom..give it a look see..maybe something will show up there..
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