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3/24/11 9:55pm - Original Message: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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1979 T-Top, Metallic Green ZZ4 350/355 hp 405 ft/lbs torque Dual Spal Fans 700R4 4 Spd O/D Transmission 2004 Z06 Commemorative Edition

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I took the E-Brake shoes off to replace them and now I can't get them back on. 

Someone talk me off the ledge...please.....


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3/25/11 2:15am - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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York, PA - USA

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1969 daytona conv. all original 350 350 380 4 sp w/air..and hard top

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Jim I feel your pain..these cars don't lend themselves to an easy repiar on the shoes..there are some special tools to make this job can I even say easier..the shop manual that I have for a 70 shows a hook tool you make out of some sort of metal scrap..idk..I think the modern spring hook tool worked fine..what part can you not get back on?   I assume the retaining springs?

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3/25/11 5:51am - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Twin Lakes, CO - USA

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SOLD - "The Toy" - 1970 Convertible
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I replaced everything without any special brake tools, but they certainly would have made the job easier.  Whenever there are two (or more) of something I'm working on I do one at a time so I have a reference out how it is supposed to be.  Don't know if you're beyond that point or not.
 
But the whole parking brake setup is basically a drum brake so if a Chilton's or Haynes repair manual for the Vette doesn't have a good step-by-step explanation of the process (with pictures) any manual for a car with drum brakes will cover the 99% of what you need to do.
 


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3/25/11 6:36am - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Gloucester, VA - USA

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1979 T-Top, Metallic Green ZZ4 350/355 hp 405 ft/lbs torque Dual Spal Fans 700R4 4 Spd O/D Transmission 2004 Z06 Commemorative Edition

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Yeah the retaining springs and lock tops....On a normal vehicle it's easy, the hub isn't in the way...

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3/25/11 2:40pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Newport, MI - USA

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1980 L-48 still in the middle of a frame-off.

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I have saw an article where they compressed the springs and then used dental floss to keep them compressed.  Put the spring in a vise. After getting the retainers on they cut the floss and pull it out and your done.
 
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3/25/11 6:41pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Gloucester, VA - USA

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1979 T-Top, Metallic Green ZZ4 350/355 hp 405 ft/lbs torque Dual Spal Fans 700R4 4 Spd O/D Transmission 2004 Z06 Commemorative Edition

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darn good idea...I was thinking safety wire but cutting it would be a pain..dental floss all I need is a small scissors...I like it.

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4/16/11 7:37pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Sebago Lake, ME - USA

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1978 Silver Anniversary L82 4spd (M21) Red Leather. -1978 Pace Car L82 4spd (M21) 20k miles.

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Did you get this done, Jim??
I tried to do mine today. Was going good until I tried to do the spring with the retainer clip.Wits EndWits End 2 hours and it still aint on and 3 more to go. Talk about driving a man to swear. I might just attach a big stick that drags on the ground when I pull up on the brake lever.
Anybody else got any tricks?


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4/17/11 9:35am - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Tecumseh, MI - USA

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1980 all org. with 18000 act. miles dk claret with matching interior..Eagle alloys ..loaded..excellent cond.

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I use small needle nose plyers to pull the pin through the retainer..Wink

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4/17/11 12:46pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Woodland, WA - USA

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1977 T-Top,350,Auto Black Ruby Pearl,Steeroids R&P conversion

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does this help

Install the rear shoe to the trapped hold down pin. Use needle nose pliers to hold pin into place.

Install the spring and retainer with another pair of needle nose pliers. This is where patience comes into

play. There really isn’t any trick to do this ... Just time and patience. After you have installed the rear shoe

retainer, go to the front shoe retainer. Swing the front shoe partly back out so that the front hold down

spring and washer can be squeezed between the shoe and axle flange from the outside. Slide the spring

and washer over the center hole of the shoe. Guide the front hold down pin into the shoe hole and through

the spring and slot in the retainer washer from the rear of the backing plate. Use a second pair of needle

nose pliers from outside of the axle flange to push down on the retainer washer, turn the retainer 1/4 turn

and secure it to the pin. Now swing the shoe back into place.



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4/17/11 7:51pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Sebago Lake, ME - USA

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1978 Silver Anniversary L82 4spd (M21) Red Leather. -1978 Pace Car L82 4spd (M21) 20k miles.

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Went back out and got it done today. Floss is a great idea. I had the article from Corvette Mag. I did the back before hooking on the top spring. Front is easier, you can hold the pin out from behind. Found this to be easier than trying to get it through the hub. Still a pain.


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4/17/11 8:43pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Show Low, AZ - USA

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1979 T Top coupe 2001 Coupe

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I actually have repaired the E brake several times, and yes a real pain in the %#$&   My problem was that the lever that contacts the rear shoe kept sliding inward, and the ebrake quit working.  I am going to remove the hubs (yeah, I know - a lot of work - but we all hahve to lube the outer bearings sometime), and add a spot weld to the lever that inserts thru the backing plate.  I will let everyone know how it works.  As for the needle nose pliers that has been mentioned in previous posts, Snap-on makes real good needle nose pliers that are small enough to reach thru the hole, and still grip the pin.  Other brands will just frustrate you. 

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4/17/11 11:18pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Bloomfield Hills, MI - USA

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1975 Corvette coupe, 4 speed manual, 383 ci 9.5:1,Edelbrock dual plane Air Gap intake, Alum Heads,Comp Cam, roller Rockers, PS,PB,Tilt

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I used zip ties to compress spring and then cut the tie with diagonal pliers.
 


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4/18/11 8:36pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Germansville, PA - USA

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1974 Coupe 358ci 4 speed Black w/Medium Saddle interior w/79 custom leather seats

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Geez...just had a parking brake shoe and stainlees steel hardware kit delivered yesterday...I'm really thrilled to hear all this good news!!  Confused

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4/18/11 9:02pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Show Low, AZ - USA

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1979 T Top coupe 2001 Coupe

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forgot to mention, Best to have two good quality Needlenose pliers if you plan on leaving the Hubs in place.  The Floss that was mentioned in previous posts is something that I would also reccommend.

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4/18/11 9:28pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Sebago Lake, ME - USA

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1978 Silver Anniversary L82 4spd (M21) Red Leather. -1978 Pace Car L82 4spd (M21) 20k miles.

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Once I compressed the springs with thin vise grips and tied them with floss it wasn't too bad. Reaching in there was kinda like that old game "Operation" where the nose lights up and buzzes if you touch the side with the tweezers. LOL
A good set of eyes helps also.


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4/18/11 9:37pm - Reply: 'Help...Please help me (E-Brake)'
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Show Low, AZ - USA

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1979 T Top coupe 2001 Coupe

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While I'm at it, have any of you had a problem with the actuation lever not staying in contact with the brake shoe?  (Hence the reason I am having to remove the hubs to place a "bead" of weld on the lever just inside the backing plate to keep it from slipping away from the shoe)   I have installed New springs, levers, and shoes!

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