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4/24/13 3:07am - Original Message: 'parking brake shoe install questions'
daveo76
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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Started trying to put the p-brake back together tonight - the previous posts I read did not exaggerate the frustration that this can cause (although I thought they did before I started).Censored  The previous posts had great info that I'm using, but curious about the best sequence to use for installing all the springs.  I was able to do the top spring first and clamshell the shoes around the hub.  They both pivot out now although when I do that they disengage from the actuator lever and I have to wiggle them back in to place.  I'm thinking I should do the side springs next and save the bottom spring and adjuster for last.  Will the side springs have enough give to get the bottom spring and adjuster installed?  


I think I will get this eventually, but no more illusions about finishing up both sides in a couple of hours.  I am using the floss (actually fishing leader line) trick to compress the springs.  Lots of other good tricks in the previous posts, too.  (Like installing the back retainer spring before the front one) 


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4/24/13 12:56pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

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 LOL Angry Censored   I can see the tools flyin across the shop already!!LOL
 "I don't NEED no stinkin PARKING BRAKE!!" AngryAngryAngry

I don't recall off-hand what order I do them in....prolly 'cause it's different every time I do it. I'm pretty sure you can insert the lower adjuster with the side springs in place. Have you tried wedging something in between the shoes and the hub while attempting to install the springs? That will keep the shoes from flopping outward....

Just for grins, Dave, I'm sending you a PDF file on the brakes....might help, might not, but ya never know...Wink

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4/24/13 4:26pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of it's life, My wife purchased it for me for fathers day in 2007 from her girl friend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.

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4/24/13 5:22pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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I've done this job on both "The Toy" ('70 convert) and "The Silver Buckboard" ('01 F-150 - yes they have the same type of p-brake setup) but for the life of me I can't remember the sequence of putting stuff back together (ain't "muddle age" just wunnerful!  Wacko ).  I do however remember there was a significant amount of fussin' and cussin' goin' on during both jobs.
 
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4/24/13 8:58pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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1974 Coupe 358ci 4 speed Black w/Medium Saddle interior w/79 custom leather seats

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Putting the bottom spring and adjuster on last worked for me. After much Censored

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4/24/13 11:26pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Thanks for the info and confirmation that I'm on the right track, everyone.  It's helpful to know that this seems to be a frustrating job for everyone that does it, not just me!  Joel, thanks for sending the .pdf.  It's helpful, but I'm surprised at the lack of parking brake info in the service manual.  

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4/25/13 1:07am - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Victory dance - one side done! Big smile  Combination of all the help from youse guys and my small fingers.  Only out there for about a half hour tonight.  Tomorrow: other side.  Thanks again for the help, all!

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4/25/13 1:09pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

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I've never even looked in the Service manual, that I can remember....the PDF I sent was a page from the old Mitchell manuals. I guess now I need to look in the Service manuals I have and see what they have on the P-brake....yer prolly right...not much!


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4/25/13 7:25pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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black 1982 coupe slate gray interior, 350 crossfire, 1985 fuel pump, Steeroids R&P conversion

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From what I remember the second side took me about half the time and half the blue language that  the first took.  The hardest part is over the other side will be easier.

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4/26/13 3:28am - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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Vancouver, WA - USA

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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Other side done! For the most part it was quicker except for the fact that the second side adjuster slots should have been cleaned out BEFORE I tried to put it together! Lesson learned ( one among many). I may write up some of my lessons an post soon. Oh and I had plenty of blue language going on - both sides. Good thing the kiddos were already in bed.

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4/26/13 8:54am - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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daveo76 said: ......................). I may write up some of my lessons an post soon. Oh and I had plenty of blue language going on - both sides. Good thing the kiddos were already in bed.


Please do! I've got a feeling I will need to do this soon as well. Clap

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4/26/13 8:55pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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1978,Metalic Money Green W/Gold emblems,TH350 w/gear splitter,black & grey interior.1978,two tone,Metalic Rootbeer & gold ,Doeskin interior,auto. trans. 1981, Silver w/mirrored T-Tops,4 spd, charcoal interior.

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Willis76 said:
daveo76 said: ......................). I may write up some of my lessons an post soon. Oh and I had plenty of blue language going on - both sides. Good thing the kiddos were already in bed.


Please do! I've got a feeling I will need to do this soon as well. Clap



Yup ! Me too.

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4/26/13 10:38pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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Woodland, WA - USA

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1977 T-Top,350,Auto Black Ruby Pearl,Steeroids R&P conversion

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When I bought my 77 about 16 years ago there was no parking break parts in the wheels I guess buba gave up left everything out

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4/26/13 11:27pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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Zachary, LA - USA

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1974 L-48 Auto. Just your basic Vette. GM crate motor w/vortec heads and intake. Crane cam. Scorpion rockers, Edelbrock carb. Lots of parts still in boxes... :(

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I did mine with the trailing arms off the car and the spindles removed, to change the rear wheel bearings.  I can't imagine doing them on the car... 

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4/27/13 2:02pm - Reply: 'Re: parking brake shoe install questions'
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Vancouver, WA - USA

Vette(s):
1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Just posted my tips in a new thread.  It's not as bad as it sounds, once it's all said and done.  

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