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10/27/11 11:28am - Original Message: 'Steering upgrade on its way'
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I just ordered a Bogenson kit to replace my worn out, leaking, and sloppy power steering system.
It should be here on Friday so I hope to install it Saturday. I removed the old system this morning.


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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
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10/27/11 1:05pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

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I'm curious to see how well this set-up works, as I'm sure others are. Also makes ya wonder why it wasn't designed like that to begin with.
Take lots-o-pics, Brian!! Thumbs Up


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10/27/11 3:19pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Pittsburgh, PA - USA

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1979 L-82, 3 spd auto, car was originally Lt. Beige currently painted Sportsman Red, Doeskin leather interior, 103,000 miles......

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Yes lots o pictures please as this is one of my must do this winter projects..........

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10/27/11 6:11pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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well I got all the old stuff out. Busted a few knuckles getting the 30+year old bolts apart.

Man am I glad I bought the lift.
Here are some pics so far. Nothing to show yet.
The new parts will be here tomorrow afternoon


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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
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10/29/11 8:06pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Waterford, MI - USA

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The new parts are here!Clap
Now comes the hard part.  have to push the steering column shaft up into itself to make it about 2.375" shorter. I may have to pull the column out of the car to do it. I tried to hit it with a BFH but it did not move. I placed a piece of aluminum on the shaft so I would not smash the end. I sanded all the rust off the shaft and sprayed it with PB Blaster. Hopefully that with help. 

I ended up pulling the column out of the car. I think this is the beat way to do it. Once I had the column out I installed the gear box and hoses. I then ended up taking the new rag joint apart and installing the one piece to the column before I put it back in. I cleaned and greased the lower barring while I had it apart. Once I got the shaft to break loose it slid in and out with just a little tapping. I had to hit pretty hard to get to start though.
Lots of pics can be seen on my Photobucket page
Not the easiest job to do by yourself but it can be done. I am glad I don't have headers to work around.


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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
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10/30/11 1:50pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
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10/30/11 2:58pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.

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Looking good Brian. Thumbs Up

I've talked to a rep at Borgeson awhile back and was very impressed with how they explained what the pro's and con's of rack and pinion systems vs. theirs.

I'm hoping I can do one this spring if funds will allow. The price through Summit Racing was only like $750. Which I don't think is that bad. Its been a expensive year for the vette. "new seats, tires, wheel bearings, driveshaft, sidepipes, now the differential." Friggin money pit.




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10/30/11 3:04pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Vancouver, WA - USA

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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Thanks for sharing - this looks pretty cool.  Seems like the "default" steering upgrade has traditionally been a R&P (Steeroids) system, but this looks like it would be a pretty good alternative and a bit less expensive.  Does it change the ratio at all or any other characteristics of the steering?  

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10/30/11 3:47pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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The new box is 12.7:1 quick ratio integral power steering box. I am not sure what the old box is. I haven't had the pleaser of getting on the highway yet but it does feel a lot better then my old worn out system did through the neighborhood.

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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
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10/31/11 9:31am - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Sykesville, MD - USA

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1979 Corvette Coupe Corvette Light Blue Midnight Blue interior Mirrored Glass T-tops

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Brian, it's always great when something you do works out and from the sound of it, you didn't encounter many problems. Hope you LOVE it!
 
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10/31/11 9:45am - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Hey Brian....
Thanks so much for sharing those pics....getting me excited about doing mine.
 
How many total hours do you think it took start to finish?
 
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10/31/11 1:38pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Dan, it took me about 8 hours total. Some Friday/ some Saturday/ some Sunday. It probably took longer to align the steering wheel then anything. It would not have taken that long if I would have had a little help. I would not try this if you do not have access to a lift.


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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
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10/31/11 2:05pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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The lift is an issue for me. I was planning on trying it off of jack stands......



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10/31/11 3:48pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Oak Creek, WI - USA

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1981 Great White Shark. Red Interior, 350/190hp. PS, PB (SS), A/C CC, T-Tops, Going to remain as Stock as possible. Served three years in Active Duty Army, then Retired Air Force after 34 years! Badger State Vetts Car Club. 175,000 Original miles!!

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Great stuff!!  Not that Winter is here and the vettes are put to bed, we can w0rk on them instead of drive um !!  I prefere to drive!!

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10/31/11 5:59pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Tucson, AZ - USA

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1970 White L-46 Air Roadster, 1971 White LT1 Coupe, 1971 Red Auto Air Coupe, 383 stroker, 430 HP, 2002 Millennium Yellow Auto Coupe

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Thanks for the write up Brian! I have been looking at the same set-up for my '70 Vette, but had not pulled the trigger yet. Your write-up make me very confident that this is the set-up I need!!
 
I am going to order one now!


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10/31/11 7:07pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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Boy, if only I could get a sales commission LOL 
Dan, I am sure you can do it without a lift, I guess I am just spoiled.Thumbs Up


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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
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10/31/11 7:10pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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HOWELL, NJ - USA

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1979, Targa Blue (72 Color), Pace Car rear spoiler, L88 hood, Dark blue factory interior, 525HP 406, HD 700R4, 370 gears,Steeroids, composite rear spring, TT IIs wrapped in T/A Radials.

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Nice system Brian. I went with Steeroids - curious in the difference between the 2 systems handling wise...

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11/3/11 12:36pm - Reply: 'Re: Steering upgrade on its way'
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If we ever could get together we could do a side by side. That would be pretty cool.

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73 coupe L48, Flat-top pistons, Performer RPM Heads, Crane Cam and roller rockers, Holley 650 vac sec. Performer intake,
3.55 gear BTO 200-4R trans,
Leather seats, F-body seatbelts, Pioneer CD player
Magnaflow Exhuast System
Dewitt radiator and dual electric fans
Borgeson Steering box
Click here for Brian's Home Page 



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