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heater core dimensional problem

Posted: 2/25/12 7:00pm Message 1 of 16
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Vette(s): 1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.
Months ago I bought a new heater core from Autozone -- dashboard is apart so I thought I should replace it.  Well, just started the project today.  Got the heater box out and took it apart and lo and behold the old core has different dims than the new one.   The old one is 2.5" thick and the new one is only 2" thick.   It doesn't seem like this should be a big problem, except for the brackets that hold the core to the box - they don't come close to holding the core tight.  Luckily I found the receipt so I can return the core, but wanted to post on here to see if anyone else has had a similar issue.  The core I took out was not original - it was replaced in 1983 according to the warranty sticker on it.  Maybe it's the wrong size?   Or maybe I should get new brackets for the new core?  If I do get a different one, any thoughts about where I should order from?  



 

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Re: heater core dimensional problem

Posted: 2/25/12 7:41pm Message 2 of 16
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Vette(s): 1974 Coupe 358ci 4 speed Black w/Medium Saddle interior w/79 custom leather seats. . 1999 C5 Convertible, 6 speed, Atomic orange, Oak interior.

There is one core air conditioned cars and one for non A/C...maybe the problemQuestion



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Re: heater core dimensional problem

Posted: 2/26/12 1:01pm Message 3 of 16
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Thanks, that could be the problem but I just took it back to Autozone and they checked the PN for with A/C and it's the one they sold me.  I'm wondering if the brackets that I have that are wrong.  The parts guy was telling me it's typical that the brackets should have spring clips in them to take up the slack for different sizes.  Does that sound correct to anyone?



 

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Re: heater core dimensional problem

Posted: 2/26/12 2:20pm Message 4 of 16
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Vette(s): 1981 Great White Shark. Red Interior, 350/190 hp. PS, PB (SS), A/C CC, T-Tops. Served three years in Active Duty Army, then Retired Air Force after 34 years! Badger State Vettes Car Club. 175,000 Original miles!! Now own a 1998 C-5!
Sounds like a good answer to me!!  I will believe anything until I prove it wrong!!
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Posted: 2/26/12 7:25pm Message 5 of 16
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After some more research, I think the one I bought from Autozone is just plain wrong.  The core for non A/C cars looks totally different.  I took the Autozone one back and ordered one from Napa - should be here tomorrow.  Napa lists the dims on their website and this one looks correct.  I'll confirm after I get it.  



 

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Re: heater core dimensional problem

Posted: 2/27/12 1:29pm Message 6 of 16
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Vette(s): 71 Colonnade Hardtop Coupe Torch Red with black interior originally L48 built to push around 360hp
Hey Dave. I own a rad shop. Yes a 76 heater core w/ac is completly different from one wo. They are both 2 1/2 thick but pipes are completely different. The aftermarket number I have is either 2-262 or 39-9081. Hopefully by now you have the right one. If not let me know if I can help. T


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Posted: 2/27/12 10:44pm Message 7 of 16
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Vette(s): 1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of its life, My wife purchased it for me for Father's Day in 2007 from her girlfriend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.
Got the dashout do not forget to replace all of the lights.  Now is the time. I have a place that sells lights for a fraction of what the autoparts places can.  They also mail first class and you only pay postage.  
 
Then I stumbled on to this site http://www.memotronics.com .
They are an electronic geek parts store that carries automotive lights. The 194 lights used in the dash are only $.23 with brand name  GE for only $.44.  
 
Shipping is reasonable also and because lights do not weight a lot they mail them first class most of the time.
 
That means you will get them in 3 – 4 days. 



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Posted: 2/27/12 11:20pm Message 8 of 16
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Terry - thanks much.  You confirmed exactly what I suspected.  I didn't make it to Napa after work today, but I'm reasonably confident that it will be the correct 2 1/2" when I pick it up.  

Gilbert - 194?  I definitely plan to replace all those lights that are currently draped all over the steering column and elsewhere, but I haven't counted that many.  Maybe '82's have a bunch more than '76?  SmileSmile  Seriously, thanks a lot for the tip.  I've been wondering where I could order those bulbs in bulk - guess I know the answer now.  

Dave




 

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Re: heater core dimensional problem

Posted: 2/28/12 7:20pm Message 9 of 16
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Dang - picked up the Napa core today and it's the same as the Autozone - 2" thick, not 2 1/2"!  I think they're from the same supplier.  Looks like I have two options: 1) order one from one of the 'Vette suppliers (for double the $$ and still no guarantee it's correct) or 2) figure out a way to use the thinner core.  I could get some different brackets or find a way to take up the slack using my existing brackets.  If there were some springs I could stick in there that'd be perfect, but they'd have to be pretty specialized.  Any thoughts?  Thanks, Dave



 

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Posted: 2/28/12 7:45pm Message 10 of 16
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Hey Dave. I wouldn't use the 2" it won' seal right, besides you shouldn't have to. I will see what I can come up with when I get to work tomorrow. If you want send me a pm with your. Ph. # and I'll give ya a call. T


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