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7/13/11 10:06am - Original Message: 'Please consider our new members'
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With the survey that went out recently I have received a number of comments from newer members that feel forums threads too often get off-topic and contain a lot of jokes and comments that only a select few may understand.

I know there are many members that have been around for years and know each other even to the point of friendships outside of the site - which is GREAT!  However, I ask that when you create posts, please consider that many people reading the posts are either new to C3VR or have no idea what you're referring to.

I'm not saying to stop with the camaraderie that is part of what makes C3VR a great place, I'm just asking that you please consider EVERYONE when making a post.

You could ask yourself some of these questions before you click the POST button....

  1. Is it staying on topic? (If you don't know what this means - think of it this way... is the content of your post directly related to the first post in the thread? If not, you're off topic).
  2. Will most people understand what you're talking about? (If not, consider adding to your post so that it will make sense to most people).
  3. Will it offend anyone or violate our Membership Agreement
  4. Does your post only include a "joke" or does it actually add to the value of the thread? (Jokes along with added value are fine. Just a joke on a thread looking for help or info, is not.)
This is not an all inclusive list.  Just consider ALL members when you post.

C3VR will never grow if we forget that there are new people joining all the time!

I can relate this issue to the first year my son joined Cub Scouts and went to the first Pack meeting.  No one even acknowledged that we were there. We had no idea where to sit or what we should be doing.  The majority of people there knew everyone already from previous years and knew what to do at Pack meetings. But they forgot that there are new folks there.  We felt very left out. For Scouts to succeed year after year, the new folks must be made to feel included.  C3VR is the same way!

Thank you for your cooperation and support!


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7/13/11 11:23am - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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Survey? what survey? I must have missed it.
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7/13/11 12:04pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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Red 1973 Convertible. L-48 Auto #'s matching Red 1970 LT-1 Convertible #'s matching

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Thats why we quit scouts!

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7/13/11 12:06pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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[QUOTE=ebo]Survey? what survey? I must have missed it.
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You should have gotten an email from me about it yesterday.  Check your inbox, spam or junk folders.  If you can't find it, use this link, but PLEASE ONLY ANSWER THE SURVEY ONCE:


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7/13/11 1:31pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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Hope I'm not off topic...did this survey also go out to "TRIAL" members? or just paid members
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7/13/11 1:36pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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[QUOTE=ebo]Hope I'm not off topic...did this survey also go out to "TRIAL" members? or just paid members
Evil Smileebo
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You're not off-topic (the original post talks about the survey).

Yes, it went to current trial members as well as current paid members too.


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7/13/11 1:39pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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1978 Indy Pace Car. All original. A true survivor. 2nd owner Only 300 miles.

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7/13/11 1:40pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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Eagleville, PA - USA

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Just received this via the survey:
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The staying on topic deal is bs. Would be alot more friendlier if we could "stay on topic" and have some fun. The site is only good if you want to know where the red wire goes. Does not encourage new folks to stick around if you are not doing all the work on your car yourself. Canadian members should also be treated the same. That isnt happening.
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I don't know who sent it and I'm not even sure what this person is trying to say.
I'm not trying to stop people from having fun here, and certainly don't know why Canadian members would feel they are treated differently.


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7/13/11 1:50pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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Joined: 6/3/2008
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My 2 cents ...are you getting this responce from trial members who have no money invested.....we have talked about how this site is slammer free because paid members have made a decision and paid a membership fee.
I enjoy talking to new members, but only if they are willing to at least give a name. If they look around and don't like it they move on, the ones that join are the ones we want. The membership fee is a GREAT FILTER. If they like it they will invest in it.
It's a great mix of .......well we been over this to many times and I'm now off topic.
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7/13/11 2:02pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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[QUOTE=ebo]My 2 cents ...are you getting this responce from trial members who have no money invested.....we have talked about how this site is slammer free because paid members have made a decision and paid a membership fee.
I enjoy talking to new members, but only if they are willing to at least give a name. If they look around and don't like it they move on, the ones that join are the ones we want. The membership fee is a GREAT FILTER. If they like it they will invest in it.
It's a great mix of .......well we been over this to many times and I'm now off topic.
Evil Smileebo
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Your 2 cents are valuable (even in today's economy).  Obviously there will be some members that find us, try us, and hate us for whatever reason(s) they may find.  But one reason we can control is making sure new members feel included (trial or paid).  

Thanks.


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7/13/11 3:30pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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Ermm O.K. I'll stick my neck out.  SOMETIMES I feel the site is taken advantage of for a sale, information, advice or purchase, FEE FREE. They get what they logged on for then took off for another site to glean what they can for free.    .02

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7/13/11 3:35pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of it's life, My wife purchased it for me for fathers day in 2007 from her girl friend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.

Joined: 10/17/2007
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Topic was the survey I thought it was a good one will you publish the results or at least a summary.  Being a Six Sigma Black Belt (ebo may be the only one to know what that is) I would like to see the numbers.   Next two cents worth, Yes there seem to be clicks especially on the live talk time I no longer attempt to visit then. 

But as you said jokes on a post with advice is great.

I became a life member because of the help I received and continue to receive.  and the fact that hearing the knowledge and the banter between people made me want to have an opportunity to meet some of you guys even if most of you are on the wrong side of the country. 

I like the money filter if you own a c3 you better be able to afford the cost of this forum or just sell the vet. 

I think Adam was saying that Banter was good just provide some meaningful information or a really funny story that everyone can relate.  I would like to see a collection of the funniest stories in a future Shark Bite  (now that is off topic)


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7/13/11 5:27pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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Tucson, AZ - USA

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1982 Black/Tan Leather Build Code C09E Bronze TTop CrossFire Fuel Injection L83 85 Fuel Pump Auto Axle 2.72 Firestone Firehawk Indy500

Joined: 7/11/2010
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I second Gilbert's request for the numbers. 

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7/14/11 11:53am - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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#1-1974 L-48 4spd Cp Med Red Metallic/Black deluxe int w/AC/tilt/tele./p/w-p/b/ Am-Fm/map light National/Regional/Chapter NCRS "Top Flight" #2-1985 Bright Red/Carmine Cp.L-98/auto Member: NCRS, NCRS Texas, Corvette Legends of Texas

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[quote=Mystery Survey Respondent]
1:The site is only good if you want to know where the red wire goes.
2:Does not encourage new folks to stick around if you are not doing all the work on your car yourself.
3:Canadian members should also be treated the same. That isnt happening.
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Otay....I just did the survey. I wasn't gonna this year, but I did because of this particular response/feedback.
On point 1: Some folks only want to know where the red wire goes. Once they get that info, we may never hear from them again. However...we do know where all of the other different colored wires go, too. This site was begun as a place for folks to come for technical info...it still is that place. We just got more friendly.

Point 2: I have been a member here since '03....I can't think of any situation where anyone was told they didn't belong here if they couldn't twist their own wrenches. True, SOME jobs might require, or we might suggest profession assistance, but I don't think anyone here has ever discouraged anyone from doing their own work, if possible.

Point 3: What? How are we treating Canadians differently? I, for one, don't even look to see where the member is from when responding to a post. We have several Canadian members that post here regularly.

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7/14/11 12:45pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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I normally dont reply to this type of thread, however this time I feel I need to.
I, like Joel dont look at where a person is from when I reply.
I was once a trial member myself and it was before I bought my first vette. The information and kindness I received from this group is want convinced me to be an ongoing member.
I look forward to checking out this site every day. Actually many times every day!
The jokes that come with replys are fine by me even though I may have no idea what some of them mean. I just realize that the person posting has an inside joke with the person replying too. I wish I was as "canny" / "jokester" as some of the regular members that post here.
As for the staying on topic, to be honest I read every thread everyday, when I have a question I usually post it versus research something from the past. This way I get to chat/talk to someone on how or why and most times you will also get a reference to a past link anyway that you can get past experience from.
So to sum up my thoughts, I am happy to be part of the best Corvette site on the web, just as it is operating now and has been since I was given the privilege to be a member.
Thanks to all the members that make up this group!
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7/14/11 1:13pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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I think that this is by far one of the most useful websites I've ever dealt with. Car related or not. There are a group of very special people here that all share a passion.......
Yes we may joke and carry on , but the help given and the friendships Ive built with other members has proven priceless to me.
 
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7/14/11 2:13pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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[QUOTE=rod7515].... The jokes that come with replys are fine by me even though I may have no idea what some of them mean. I just realize that the person posting has an inside joke with the person replying too....
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And your point of view on the matter (well, yours and others that share the same opinion) is the reason I'm not asking people to stop joking around all together. That would take away a huge part of what most people like about this place.  There are some that like it, some that don't.  We just have to try to find the happy medium.


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7/14/11 2:47pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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1981 Great White Shark. Red Interior, 350/190hp. PS, PB (SS), A/C CC, T-Tops, Going to remain as Stock as possible. Served three years in Active Duty Army, then Retired Air Force after 34 years! Badger State Vetts Car Club. 175,000 Original miles!!

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My 2 cents??  I joined this site because I own a C-3.  I like to tear thing apart and see how they work then put them back together.  Yes I have made mistakes but most of my answers about my C-3 have come from this group of people.  I have made many friends and plan to "keep them close"
We are all human, we make mistakes and then we correct our mistakes and "keep on crusin down the road"    What a great bunch of guys and gals we have here!!!!
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7/14/11 3:09pm - Reply: 'Please consider our new members'
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1982 C3 Collectors Edition 44000 miles, sat in the sun most of it's life, My wife purchased it for me for fathers day in 2007 from her girl friend that had it for 19 years. It is on the road again. I'm retired but it is now my daily driver.

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You need to take a working vacation to San Diego. Approve

I hate tearing things apart because I have a trouble getting them back it the correct spot again.  I just like cruising.  I have converted three others to Corvettes at church all Elders working on the minister and a couple of more members.

This site has been invaluable in keeping my C3 running. 

Back to your vacation plans.  I have a long list of things that you could fix on your working vacation.  Keep you real happyTongue.   Would even feed you if you did not eat much.


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Rolling On The Floor Laughing OMG you guys are in such trouble......your so far off topicLOLLOL
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