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9/12/15 10:17pm - Original Message: 'Tires tires tires'
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Well, as much as I hate to give up a perfectly good set old Indy Firehawks, they're starting to make nervous being 8 years old. I remember what happened in '02 when I bought the Vette and two weeks later the tread came off the right front tire and pretty much wiped out the quarter panel... seller neglected to tell me those new looking tires were 12 years old.
  Anyway, I looking for a new set and found out they don't make the Indy 500 Firehawks in 255-60x15 anymore. I'm looking at BFG TA radials... Cooper Cobras and Mickey Thompson... I need some help deciding which to go with... the Cobras are definitely quite a bit cheaper, but I don't know anything about them... Hows about a little help folks... thanks


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9/12/15 11:55pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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Use the search feature and you will find a bunch of threads on tires.

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9/13/15 8:25am - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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I've used both the BFG and Cooper Cobra. This is subjective but I think the BFG has the more classic look to the lettering but they're each excellent tires. As far as quality and performance goes they're equal. FYI...the Pep Boys Futura GLE is a Cooper Cobra under the Pep Boys name.

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9/13/15 9:03am - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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Eagan, MN - USA

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My only gripe about the BFG T/A's is that the lettering is always yellow looking.  Yes, they get scrubbed with all the usual cleaners.

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9/13/15 12:56pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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F4Gary said: Use the search feature and you will find a bunch of threads on tires.


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9/13/15 1:25pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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WEST SENECA, NY - USA

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1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.

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I sent Coker tire a email to see if they might be reproducing these tires since they are discontinued. Hopefully I'll get a reply from them. 

I think I will be going with a modern retro torque thrust style "18 wheel since our selection of 15" performance tires are fading away.

John, I use Wesley's Bleche-Wite tire cleaner on my tires. The white letters never yellowed on any of my previous tires. Plus I don't put tire dressing on. That has a tendency of turning the whitewalls/letters yellow.  


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9/13/15 3:36pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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I replaced mine in June for the same reason. Like you said, not a whole lot to pick from these days.
I went with the Cooper Cobra because it's a good name and the price was right. So far after logging about 1200 miles I'm very happy with them.
Got them online from Discount Tire for $99.00 ea. plus an instant rebate of $40.00 on 4 and free shipping. Can beat that.


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9/13/15 9:04pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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I got almost the same deal.

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9/14/15 8:07am - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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I'm using BF Goodrich, and Bleachwhite. No problem and am happy.

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9/14/15 3:49pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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Well this is the response I got back from Coker Tire.

 Let me know what yawl think. Should I post a thread here and get a idea of how many members here would be interested in a set?


Darryl,


Thanks for contacting us. While we do not currently have plans to produce such a tire, I can forward your inquiry to our product development team if you like. Please provide the following info:

Quantity of tires needed

Preferred contact method

Any other relevant info.

Michael Howard
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1317 Chestnut Street
Chattanooga, TN 37402
Toll Free: 1-800-251-6336
Direct: 423-648-8540
Fax: 423-756-5607
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9/14/15 4:25pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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Which tires?  You never said in your previous post.

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9/14/15 4:28pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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Cool  Well Sarge, I don't need them yet! BUT in time we'll all need to purchase new sneakers. I have relatively new T/A's on mine, so depending on miles and cost, I'll be ready in a couple seasons. We need to get together more often and, and turn the tires. Week-end fall foliage run?  Anyone?

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9/14/15 7:52pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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F4Gary said: Which tires?  You never said in your previous post.


Talking about Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's. 

The OP stated his Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's are now 8 yrs. old and making him nervous due to their age. Also stated Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires are discontinued. I stated to the OP that I would contact Coker Tire to see if they might possibly be reproducing these tire meaning the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's in the near future. 

Now I'm wondering if there is a big interest in the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's if Coker was to repro them. I may post a thread regarding this.

Remember Firestone Firehawk Indy 500....ClownBig smileLOLThumbs Up 


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9/14/15 9:50pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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Grapevine, TX - USA

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Well, wouldn't you want the Goodyears that originally came on your car instead of the 500's?  If it's from Coker, it's gonna be expensive regardless.  Next question, of course is, did your car come with the 500's, as I'm not familiar with 81's.

The Coker reproductions are usually around $400 each. Wacko


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9/14/15 10:09pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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The Goodyear tires in the rain were one of the worse tires I ever had on my car. I was on an off ramp driving like an old lady when my car did a 360 without warning.  I immediately took those off and put a set of BF Goodrich T/A's. Those were a major improvement. Then in 2010 I score one of the last remaining sets of Indy 500's. A lot of the vette guys in my area raved about the Indy 500's. Man they were right. Great grip and low road noise plus I can take a corner in the rain without sweating bullets. I know Coker tires are pricey, but I have stupid amounts of money into my rest-modded vette. So I'd gladly pay the money for a good tire. 

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9/15/15 1:53am - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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Vancouver, WA - USA

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1976 Silver/Firethorn. L48, 4spd. Original 2 bolt, vortec heads, 9.4:1 CR, Speed Pro Cam: 224/224@0.050, 112 LSA, Eagle Steel Crank.

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Gunslinger said: I've used both the BFG and Cooper Cobra. This is subjective but I think the BFG has the more classic look to the lettering but they're each excellent tires. As far as quality and performance goes they're equal. FYI...the Pep Boys Futura GLE is a Cooper Cobra under the Pep Boys name.


Same thoughts as Gunslinger.  I have the Cobras now and they're good tires, no regrets, but I think I do like the looks of the BFGs just a bit more.  The white lettering on the Cobras seems to get dingier more quickly, too, but a small quibble.  On the flip side, the Cobras are one speed rating higher.  

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9/15/15 6:25pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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if I need tires on 79 I would look for goodyears but I do like  bfg,s    now worried abount cost look what spent on this car,tires what the big deal when it comes to tires ,this were going to look to save money?      just a thought. dwaBeer

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9/16/15 1:38pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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dwa175 said: if I need tires on 79 I would look for goodyears but I do like  bfg,s    now worried abount cost look what spent on this car,tires what the big deal when it comes to tires ,this were going to look to save money?      just a thought. dwaBeer


Well, $100/tire vs $400/tire for a tire that is a current design is worth it unless the car needs the OEM tires for judging purposes.


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9/16/15 4:37pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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DeBerry, TX - USA

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Jeffm said: I replaced mine in June for the same reason. Like you said, not a whole lot to pick from these days.
I went with the Cooper Cobra because it's a good name and the price was right. So far after logging about 1200 miles I'm very happy with them.
Got them online from Discount Tire for $99.00 ea. plus an instant rebate of $40.00 on 4 and free shipping. Can beat that.


Dang! I thought I was getting a deal at $111.00 no tax and free shipping! Still cheaper than everywhere else I could find. Got my Cobras in today from Discount Tire Direct...was going to go with Simple Tire that were cheaper but when I found out they were almost two years old, I backed out of that.
 I checked the date code on my Firehawks today and was shocked to see 503 on them. That means they were 3-4 years old when I bought them and 12 yrs old now instead of 8! They still look fine though but way past time to go. I'm anxious to get the Cobras on and see how they handle. Now I'll be able to put that 5th gear to good use...Thumbs Up
 Jeff... were yours 255/60x15?
PS... as for the white lettering getting dingy /dirty...after I put the dressing on the Firehawks, I would take a cloth, spray a little carb cleaner on it and wipe the tops of the letters off. That got rid of the oily residue most of the dressings have so dirt doesn't stick to it and they stay white! Never hurt the tire either...just sayin... Big smile





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9/16/15 4:46pm - Reply: 'Re: Tires tires tires'
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I went with the Coopers too - got them from Treaddepot.com $ 75.00 each back in February. I like them - couldn't see spending over $ 100 each on BFG's when I'll never wear them out, I'll only be replacing them due to age.
 
Only thing I wasn't crazy about was the idea of the word "Cobra" on side of a Vette - but when the new Corvette America catalog came with a picture of a Vette with coopers, I didn't feel so bad.
 
After all 15" tires are not the easiest to come by these days!
 
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