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4/24/13 4:38pm - Original Message: 'Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Ash Fork, AZ - USA

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What, only 30 or 40 posts about this?   I figured it was the battery and had it tested, sure enough, bad cell.  I installed a new battery and tried starting it, no luck.  Through it in neutral and still nothing.  Jumped it at the starter and it roared to life and I mean roared, no exhaust, just headers!  So, I've ordered a new ignition switch.  Anyone know of a good how to video on the install or tips? 
 
I'll probably work on the exhaust install and let my daughter install the switch.  Maybe I'll work on a cold beverage and let her work on both?


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4/24/13 9:05pm - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Not necessarily the ignition switch...a bad starter solenoid will do the same thing.And a whole lot easier to replace Exclamation

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4/24/13 9:56pm - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Zachary, LA - USA

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Could also be the neutral (or clutch, if it's a standard) safety switch...

The ignition switch is on the column, but down at your feet.  The lock cylinder just moves a rod down the column to the switch.  Pretty easy to change, two screws and two plugs.




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4/25/13 8:48am - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Thanks for the input.  If the new switch doesn't fix the problem I'll test the selenoid.  I'm changing the headers so it'll be an easy test.
 
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4/25/13 1:00pm - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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You can test the ignition switch before replacing it. You need a volt meter....not a test light....you wanna see how much voltage is there. Check the purple wire on the inside terminal of the solenoid. With the key in the "Start" position, you must have 12v. If you don't see a minimum of 10.5 volts there, then you may have a bad ignition switch, neutral safety switch, or wiring issues. If you do have 12v there, then the solenoid is prolly crap.
This is assuming, of course, that you have power to the rest of the car....headlights, interior lights, etc. If not, then you may well have a burned fuse link, which could cause the no crank problem. Thumbs Up

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4/29/13 9:26am - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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I'll check the the switch and selenoid with my volt meter.  I had my daughter under the steering column and she couldn't find the ignition switch.  So I got my fat butt in there and I couldn't find it.  I tried to match up the new part with anything that looked like it and it was a resounding "what the @#%*" .  There doesn't even seem to be anything that remotely looks like the plugs that should go into the new switch.
 
Here's a link of the new part( I tried uploading and was getting an error msg):
 
 
I know it's a small area to search, is it behind something?  Which side of the steering column is it located.
thanks, dave


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4/29/13 11:48am - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Here is where it is located

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4/29/13 12:16pm - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Thanks Bob, I'll get my dauhter under there and have a go at it.  With my back I know I can't get down there again.  Thank goodness she likes working on the Vette as much as her dad.
 
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4/29/13 9:56pm - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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On the same topic...

My car has no auxiliary power when the key is taken to "accessory."  Everything else works as it should.  I'd imagine it's probably the switch as well?



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4/29/13 11:14pm - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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NO power in the "ACC" position could simply be an adjustment on the switch. Loosen the two small screws, and move the switch up/down, and see if that helps.





HERE'S another view of the switch....





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4/30/13 9:12pm - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Great tip!  Hopefully the adjustment will do the trick.  It would be nice to have ONE original part that actually works!!

Darryl


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5/2/13 8:06am - Reply: 'Re: Well I'll be, turn the key and...nothin''
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Ash Fork, AZ - USA

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dyoes said: Great tip!  Hopefully the adjustment will do the trick.  It would be nice to have ONE original part that actually works!!

Darryl



Why would you want to be any different than the rest of us!!Wink

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