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windshield frame rusting

Posted: 2/9/06 5:19am Message 11 of 22
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Vette(s): 1979, 350sb, as my kids affectionately call it "shit brown" Corvette purchased in 1996. 84,000+ miles. Not a show car, but I love her just the same.

Well Mickey, I'd offer the use of one of my pole barns for your resto, but I'm pretty sure you don't want to make that commute!

As a matter of fact, I can offer inside work conditions for any members in my area, as long as I get to help and learn along the way.  Just IM me or send an email and we can work out any particulars.

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windshield frame rusting

Posted: 2/9/06 6:23am Message 12 of 22
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Well Mickey, I'd offer the use of one of my pole barns for your resto, but I'm pretty sure you don't want to make that commute!

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Thank you for the offer.  Yes, just a wee bit far from home.

Mickey




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Posted: 2/9/06 6:13pm Message 13 of 22
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[QUOTE=greypoupon69]Does anyone have some pics of the places that rot??

Thanks if ya do! [/QUOTE]

All the places rot, just some are worse then others. My own impression is the rocker channels are the most rust prone areas of the bird cage, and often the most overlooked. I can just about guarantee that if you have a rusty windshield frame, the channels are pretty much gone too. Also the underbody reinforcements around the #4 body mounts.




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Posted: 2/11/06 2:48pm Message 14 of 22
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    well listen up all, i have a 72 that i thought was real clean with a small leak that would accumulate in the drivers side footwell. well in the process of restoring i took the body off,rocker channels looked good as far as i could tell just some surface rust. i went to take the windshield out and it was a pain in the ass there was this real thick sealant that took a torch to loosen up. finally after getting the windshield out i started scraping the windshield frame and  metal starts flaking away and i see gray which turns out to be duct tape at this point, huge gapeing areas of metal were gone. whoever did this repair balled up large amounts of duct tape to fill the gapeing holes in the windshield frame. i must have pulled out half a roll of duct tape out of the three or four holes in the frame, so after discovering this i decided to tear the whole car down and try to find a good birdcage to replace it. which, luckily, i did find one at carlisle had it sandblasted and powdercoated and now looks like new but, to make a long story short good rocker channels don't really indicate much because  this 72 was a very clean car otherwise hope this help some of you. just my .03 cents 


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Posted: 2/11/06 3:51pm Message 15 of 22
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Another common practice, and there are two meanings of "common" here, is to fill the void with steel wool, bondo over the top of it and put the moulding back on.  Talk about a real mess that serves to hasten the rusting process when all of those little unpainted steel hairs get moist.  Imagine trying to clean up such a mess.  I have seen the above more than once.  I would not have kind words to a person I saw doing the above.


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Posted: 2/11/06 4:42pm Message 16 of 22
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[QUOTE=greypoupon69]Does anyone have some pics of the places that rot??

Thanks if ya do! [/QUOTE]

Here is what you might see... Not pretty but can be fixed... A welder buddy of mine and I replaced the header new. Fortunateley the rest of the birdcage was Ok. if you remove the header molding and the steel frame of the molding is rusted out... you have a major problem. The biggest problem with this job was removing the windshield which did break. Mine had no sealant in the header, after an apparent windshield replacement. The header makes a nice collection point for water to sit and rust away... It was a labor intensive job, especially since the car had new paint I haven't been in much rain but I did a leak test after completion and so far no leaks...

  There were some posts on here and may be some in the archives as far as resealing the windshield header.   If you want to see some more depressing pics I got them, but one should be enuf

http://www.c3vr.com/member_uploads/6801_6900/6820/Vette%2000 5.jpg

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Posted: 2/12/06 10:57pm Message 17 of 22
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[QUOTE=greypoupon69]Does anyone have some pics of the places that rot??

Thanks if ya do! [/QUOTE]

there is a bird cage / frame for sale on ebay. check it out for a good pic of what goes bad. I'd post it here but i'm an idiot on computers & linking pictures. I could email the pic,  but you could look at ebay yourself.




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Posted: 2/12/06 11:10pm Message 18 of 22
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What's the e-bay auction # of that bird cage / frame?


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Posted: 2/13/06 2:53pm Message 19 of 22
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[QUOTE=greypoupon69]Does anyone have some pics of the places that rot?? Thanks if ya do! [/QUOTE]


there is a bird cage / frame for sale on ebay. check it out for a good pic of what goes bad. I'd post it here but i'm an idiot on computers & linking pictures. I could email the pic, but you could look at ebay yourself.

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Thanks! I will see if I can find it on Ebay. Do you have the item number? I'm so lazy!


Thanks Ray for the picture.....I see now.    What about the center part where the T-Tops sit? Was that rusted out too? I've "heard" they do.



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Posted: 2/13/06 3:57pm Message 20 of 22
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Thanks Ray for the picture.....I see now.    What about the center part where the T-Tops sit? Was that rusted out too? I've "heard" they do.
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