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1979 A/C re-charging

Posted: 9/27/10 3:38pm Message 11 of 21
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The gauge faces should be labeled for R12, or 134, or maybe even R22. You'll need to look at the lettering where the numbers start in the circle...it will usually be R12 on the outer circle, and the other types(R22, 134, etc) on the inner circle. Not all gauges are the same, so I can't tell you what yours has.

What pressures do you see on the gauges when you hook them up,  without it running, and running?(all valves closed)



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1979 A/C re-charging

Posted: 9/27/10 4:16pm Message 12 of 21
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Gauges are marked, it looks like the very inner red scale is mark R22 & R12, a double scale.  The next red scale is marked R502 this one is in the middle.  Black scale on both are not marked, most outter.

The R22 / 12 scale is mark on both sides of the line, I guess one is for 22 the other for 12.  High side scale is not marked up to 200.  200 would be the max on the R12 scale if I am correct.
 
I did not write down what I saw, I would be guessing.  I did do the static check first and I did have pressures.  I would be guessing, I will check it again before I do my next attemp.



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Posted: 9/27/10 7:24pm Message 13 of 21
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The high side only goes to 200psi??? Wow...that's not gonna give ya much to go on...
Could you get a pic of the gauge faces?



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1979 A/C re-charging

Posted: 10/5/10 11:21am Message 14 of 21
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone that helped me get my A/Ccool again.  A big special thanks to Joel Adams.

So far so good, cooling very well.
 



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Posted: 10/5/10 4:50pm Message 15 of 21
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That's great..I guess you need AC down there all year! Hopefully you can remember how this all goes for the next top off! I haven't charged a car with a little can in a long time. Got any of that R12 left for next year? That stuff is getting really hard to find in those small cans! We can get that Freeze 12 stuff but we don't for obvious reasons! Drive cool.
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1979 A/C re-charging

Posted: 10/6/10 9:28am Message 16 of 21
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O, I took good notes.  Pretty cool down here right now.  R12 was easy to get but pricey, $29 for a 12oz can.  Too much bad info on the street about Freeze 12.


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Posted: 10/6/10 9:49am Message 17 of 21
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I don't think that 29$ t fix the AC is all that bad.. I would buy a few extra cans to get you thru a couple of years..who knows how long they will be around! I avoid the Freeze (propane)12 also..
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Posted: 10/6/10 10:02am Message 18 of 21
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There is also a product called Frigg 12, which is basically the same crap as the Freeze 12, with different labeling.We had a salesguy stop by the shop one day and gave us a case of it, and said "Try it out, and see what you think".
I actually called the tech support number listed on the can, and eventually got to speak with someone that was supposed to know all the tech specs and such....he didn't know crap...didn't have any idea if it was a complete, SAFE drop-in replacement for R12, or anything else.
Like an idiot, I blew a can in my '74 a  year or so later before driving to an NCRS meet. It took just about 80 miles of highway driving to lock the compressor up, and burn the belt off, before I even realized what had happened. Needless to say, I were NOT a happy camper that weekend.
Any of the other vehicles we used that crap in at the shop also wound up with massive internal damage shortly after....
I will update everything I have to 134 when the time comes. I will not worry about locating, or paying for R12 anymore. I have found that 134 works just as well in most cases, and there is very little extra needed to upgrade to the 134 from R12.



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Posted: 10/6/10 10:48am Message 19 of 21
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That had to really make you ######off.. I have never used either one..probably never will..body shop had one towed in with minor front end damage that exploded on impact! insurance sued the shop that charged the AC with that stuff..they didn't know it had propane in it! I felt bad for that shop! The car was a total loss..
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Posted: 10/6/10 3:44pm Message 20 of 21
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It's not just the propane in it....that crap has some other chemicals that will apparently break down the oil in the system. Either that, or it keeps the oil from mixing in, and being circulated thru the system....


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