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AC Compressor leaking refrigerant R134

Posted: 5/7/06 6:32pm Message 1 of 15
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I had an air conditioning line replaced on my 75 about a year ago. It is the line that bolts on to the rear of the compressor. I am guessing there is an o-ring that is leaking because dye was put in the system when it was serviced and the green dye is very visible at the rear of the compressor. By the way, I have the long compressor.

My question is how difficult would this be for me to replace/repair myself. I have access to a small Robinaire vacuum pump if needed. I have never evacuated an AC system before. Is there a step by step process on the internet or within the C3VR forums. Thanks in advance for your comments.
Scott
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AC Compressor leaking refrigerant R134

Posted: 5/7/06 7:04pm Message 2 of 15
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There is an o-ring at the opening of each line behind the hose assy to the compresser.   One bolt in the center between the lines holds them to the compresser.  With the system empty, remove the bolt and pull out the o-rings, coat new o-rings with refrigerent oil, and reinstall them.   Then the system needs to be evacuated and recharged.    Don't leave the system open too long, or the dessicant will fill with moisture, and become ineffective.    However, the dessicant can be dried out by a LLOONNGG period of time on a vacuum pump.

You will also need a manifold gauge set along with the vacuum pump to refill the system.  If you want details on how to do this, let me know.

Be sure the system is empty before taking anything loose.  A rush of freon can cause serious hurt.  Legally, someone with a reclaimer must empty any remaining freon.

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Posted: 5/7/06 7:56pm Message 3 of 15
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To evacuate the system, connect a manifold gauge set to the car and the vacuum pump.   The high side gauge and red hose connect to the high side of the car's a/c system.  This is the line from the compressor, to the condenser in front of the radiator, and on to the restriction.   Somewhere in this path is the connector.  From the restriction (orifice, valve) back to the compressor is the low side connection.   Connect the blue hose from the low side gauge to the connector found here.

The yellow hose from the center of the gauge set connects to the vacuum pump.    Start the pump and open both valves on the gauge set.   Run it for at least a 1/2 hour.  See that the low side gauge shows close to 30 inches of vacuum.   Then shut the manifold gauge set valves and shut off the pump.

Watch the low side gauge.  If it only loses a couple inches of vacuum and hold steady it's okay to charge.  If it bleeds off close to or at zero, there is a leak in the system.  If it drops part way, then stops and holds, there is moisture in the system.   Start the pump, open the valves, and give it more time.   If there is a lot of moisture, you could go up to 2 hours.  Repeat the test for leaks and moisture.

Once the system is holding good vacuum disconnect the yellow line from the vacuum pump.   Connect the freon supply.  Allow freon into the yellow line.   SLIGHTLY crack open the yellow line AT the manifold gauge set.  When you get a slight trace of refrigerent, close the line.  This bleeds the air out of the line that entered when you removed the vacuum pump.

Now start the car and turn on the a/c.  Open the low side manifold gauge valve.  Do NOT open the high side.   This will allow you to charge the system.   You should have the car on fast idle when charging.  Final pressures will depend on the ambient temperature.  If  you install the correct volume, you should be fine.

When done, shut the low side valve and disconnect the low side line, and install the service cap on the car.   This allows you to disconnect the line at it's lowest pressure.   Then shut off the car and allow the high side pressure to drop.  When stable ( less than a minute) disconnect the high side line, now also at it's lowest pressure.

If all else is good, you are now able to drive in cool comfort.




AC Compressor leaking refrigerant R134

Posted: 5/8/06 1:30pm Message 4 of 15
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Thanks a million Ken. I will print it out and go from there. You are awesome and I appreciate the time you put into this.
Scott



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Posted: 5/8/06 3:23pm Message 5 of 15
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 after you replace the o ring,, get a small canister of nitrogen and pressure test the system b4 you put a vacumn on it,, just put nitrogen in the system on the suction side, about 125 lbs of pressure, then bubble soap the joints and look for leaks, if no leaks, vacumn evacuate the system and recharge,,


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Posted: 5/10/06 8:43am Message 6 of 15
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I've been in the a/c & cooling system business for 35 years. Ken, if you ever decide to move to Grand Rapids, Mi. I may want to hire you. Your info is right on!! Terry


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Posted: 5/11/06 1:29pm Message 7 of 15
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I have been at it awhile.  I now teach auto repair after fixing them for over 25 years.  I have written over 95 repair articles for trade magazines.  Had my own shop for 3 years, but I'm not a business man.  I hold 24 ASE certs.  All that and 60 cents gets me a coke.  I prefer the diet coke with splenda but an Iced Tea will do very nicely.




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Posted: 5/12/06 5:18am Message 8 of 15
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[QUOTE=kstyer]

I have been at it awhile.  I now teach auto repair after fixing them for over 25 years.  I have written over 95 repair articles for trade magazines.  Had my own shop for 3 years, but I'm not a business man.  I hold 24 ASE certs.  All that and 60 cents gets me a coke.  I prefer the diet coke with splenda but an Iced Tea will do very nicely.

[/QUOTE] Your smart Ken to get out of fixing this modern day stuff. I don't know who's crazier, the guy's designing this stuff, or us guy's who are trying to fix them. Iced tea is nice, but sometimes I think I may need a quick trip to the "loony bin"!!


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Posted: 5/12/06 4:48pm Message 9 of 15
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Thank you to Ken and all who posted on this subject. I bought a manifold set and did the deal as prescribed by Ken. I followed the instructions to the letter. I changed the o-rings, pulled a good vacuum for about 45 minutes. No notable drop on guage when all was done. I recharged, and eureka, 33 degress F at the vents. Well done Ken. Hope I can pay ya back!
Scott



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Posted: 5/13/06 3:50pm Message 10 of 15
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Glad it went well.

Payback?  Not necessary,......  Well maybe that Iced Tea. 




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