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Air Conditioning Thoughts?

Posted: 4/24/07 7:49pm Message 21 of 34
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When is comes to air conditioning, automotive or residential a quick fix in a can does not exist!!  OK, it may work for a while but not long term!! 
 
The procedure Terry listed above is a good one!Thumbs%20Up     Remember that ester oils are 100 times more hygroscopic (attracts water big time) than mineral oils.  This means that a deep vacuum is very important.  Don't open that oil before your ready to charge it, it soaks up water like a sponge!
 
As for the temperature difference between R12 and R134A, R12 boils at about -20 degrees F and R134A boils at about -15 degrees F.   So technically thats about a 5 degree difference but there are other factors that make them very compatible comfort wise.  
 
Its the boiling off in the evaporator that gives the cooling effectCool.  Heat travels from hot to cold so the heat in the cab is absorbed by the refrigerant in the evaporator (this is the guy next to the heater core) and discarded via the condenser (this guy hangs out in front of the radiator and no, it's not cool to write your name on the finsAngry) where it changes back to a liquid and starts the process all over again.  The compressor keeps it all moving!
 
I know, way to much information......I love this stuffEmbarrassed!!!  What can I say!!
 



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Air Conditioning Thoughts?

Posted: 4/24/07 9:59pm Message 22 of 34
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[QUOTE=ranger3]Warbird,
Terry is correct, If the compressor is turning, with the ac clutch locked, and the hoses are cold then you either have a problem with the duct system or the  heater valve is partially open, A cheap, non-complex fix is to install shutoff valve on BOTH heater hoses. This eliminates mixing cold air with hot air. NAPA has the shutoff valves.

Scott
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I have the manual valves, duct work is good no blockage or holes. I'm going to play around with it this weekend, I suspect that my system may be overcharged.
Something isn't right with the fan, it never blew enough air from the start, connections, switches, AC controls etc were all replaced. The fan sounds like it's going great guns, but you don't feel any difference in the air flow between low & hi fan mode Stern%20Smile 



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Posted: 5/9/07 3:47am Message 23 of 34
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Vette(s): 1981 dark metallic blue, dark doeskin leather interior, mirrored glass T Tops, 330hp/350ci GMPP crate engine, billeted aluminum serpentine system, Dewitts with dual spalls
My .02,
 
I converted and still got excessive heat.  I installed the NAPA valves, roughly $40.00 and installed reflectix, available from Lowe's/Home Depot - $25.00 aluminum under the carpet and found 3 nagging holes in firewall - sealed them with windshield rolled caulking - any parts store - $15.00.
 
Made a big diference!
 
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Posted: 5/10/07 2:17pm Message 24 of 34
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Does anyone have the NAPA numbers for the heater shutoff valves?  I'm without AC for awhile and in Florida it's getting pretty hot driving the last couple of days.


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Posted: 5/10/07 2:30pm Message 25 of 34
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Vette(s): 1979 T-Top, Metallic Green ZZ4 350/355 hp 405 ft/lbs torque Dual Spal Fans 700R4 4 Spd O/D Transmission 2004 Z06 Commemorative Edition

  660-1414
  660-1413



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Posted: 5/10/07 2:33pm Message 26 of 34
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The part numbers are 660-1413 and 660-1414.  The main thing is the size of the hoses.


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Posted: 5/13/07 7:37am Message 27 of 34
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Hi Terry

               Eurodesk here, I have a problem with my blow fan, I think it's
               a electrical problem some times the fan works and other times
               it doesn't. I'll check all electrical connections and wires, do you
               have any suggestion about how to test out the problem? I
               want to try to fix this my self before I give up and take it to the
               shop. Thanks.   Marion



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Posted: 5/13/07 8:16am Message 28 of 34
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Check out this previous thread. It might help you narrow down the problem.

http://www.c3vr.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65274&KW=fan+relay&PID=237570#237570

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Posted: 5/14/07 6:12am Message 29 of 34
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Hi Terry

               Eurodesk here, I have a problem with my blow fan, I think it's
               a electrical problem some times the fan works and other times
               it doesn't. I'll check all electrical connections and wires, do you
               have any suggestion about how to test out the problem? I
               want to try to fix this my self before I give up and take it to the
               shop. Thanks.   Marion
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Hey Marion. Usually when the blower motor works intermittently its bad contacts in the motor. When it doesn't come on give the motor a tap and see if it starts. If so the motor may be bad.



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Posted: 5/14/07 1:07pm Message 30 of 34
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Your A/C blower fuse might be overheating and shutting off. Try putting a 30 amp circuit breaker in the fuse slot. NAPA has them $2-$3 bucks, just ask. good luck, Gene


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