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Help! Water Pump Failure???

Posted: 6/25/07 3:58pm Message 1 of 8
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It's been many years since I had to mess with a water pump, and never on a corvette. Yesterday I was cruisin' and suddenly began to smell antifreeze. I had my passenger check around the footwell to see if there was any wetness and began watching the temp guage - it wasn't moving - yet! But then suddenly it began to swing to the right so I pulled over.
 
As soon as I stopped, with the engine running, the the needle began to drop back. I opened the hood and there was coolant sprayed everywhere. I shut the engine off and could see steam coming from somewhere near the heater hose inlet and where the water pump gasket meets the block, but it was too dang hot to get in there and see exactly what was really going on.
 
I gave it a quick check this evening and al the hoses seem to be O.K. Is it usual for there to be coolant spewing everywhere if the water pump fails?
 
Jim



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Posted: 6/25/07 5:29pm Message 2 of 8
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Sounds more like the gasket failed on that side.  Replace them both.  In my experience though, if you've got the pump off  to replace the gasket it wouldn't hurt to replace it if it's pretty old. Usually, when they go bad, they leak out the bearing seal. And they'll always fail when you least want it to.

 When I first bought mine, in fact on my first long drive, the gasket on one side failed . I replaced both and 2 days later the pump failed. So I had to replace them again. Sucked.  Not sure if it's coincedence but...

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Help! Water Pump Failure???

Posted: 6/25/07 6:30pm Message 3 of 8
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Look at the small hole at the bottom of the bearing area behind the pulley.  If there is any sign of seepage/water running, replace the pump even if the gaskets have failed.
 
It's really not a very hard job.  Once the belts, pulley, and a couple of brackets are out of the way, there are only 4 bolts holding the pump to the engine.



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Posted: 6/25/07 6:41pm Message 4 of 8
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Sounds like a hose...have you filled it back with water and started it to see if it leaked when cold?
Most of the time, the weep hole in the bottom of the pump will leak worse while running than not running, depending on the pressure in the system at the time.
the fact that you smelled anti freeze leans to a leak to the side, where it would splash on the exhaust. I've never seen a wp gasket just give up the ghost like that if it hasn't been worked on lately, but I guess anything is possible on our cars!


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Posted: 6/25/07 6:43pm Message 5 of 8
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 Joel-

 To clarify, when mine blew out, it literally blew out. The car hadn't been run in a year or so and when I ran the heck out of it... 

  Lesson ...old dried out stuff leaks.



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Posted: 6/26/07 5:03am Message 6 of 8
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Hey!
Are you implying that I leak?!?!?





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Posted: 6/26/07 10:53am Message 7 of 8
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When my pump went, I heard a squealing like a belt being too loose, (could have been fluid on the belts), then a clattering like bbbaaaaddddd valve train noise, then the famous smell of Riunite Wine, er, ah, Antifreeze (for those not old enough, they found antifrees in Riunite wine in the '70's).
 
Popped the hood and green stuff was everywhere on the hood.  Ended up to be a catastrophic bearing failure of the pump.  We were also on a long run (foliage tour to Talamena drive) and had started home.  We were about 50 miles south of nowhere, lucky to have cell coverage.
 
By chance, did you guys hear any peculiar noises or were the tunes cranked too loud?Rolling%20On%20The%20Floor%20Laughing



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Posted: 6/27/07 5:44pm Message 8 of 8
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You know, that's interesting because the last few times I started it up I heard an awful whining noise under the hood, but I assumed it was a dry belt. After it ran for about a minute or maybe two, it would stop altogether.
 
We didn't hear a sound when it "blew" - just the smell of the antifreeze.



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