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type of AC Compressor

Posted: 6/16/05 10:54am Message 1 of 14
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Just got back from my 1400 mile drive home from Chicago with the new toy, my 1978 Silver Anniversary Vette.  A few minor things need to be fixed, one being the A/C system.  I've just had it converted to R134a, but we found a blockage at the orifice (spelled correctly?) valve.  The compressor was running so hot that it actually burned the tech charging the system.  Ssssoooo... guess it's time for a new compressor, dryer/accumulator, and orifice valve.  Now comes problem #1: how do I tell what type of compressor it is?  Is there some way to identify a R4 or A6 compressor? 

After I replace that, my problem #2 will be related to the ammount/type of oil and refegierant I'll need to complete the fix, but I'll worry about that once I replace the compressor, etc!




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Posted: 6/16/05 11:05am Message 2 of 14
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Scrap that question about the compressor type... just found on Advance Auto Part's site a pic of my existing compressor, definatly an R4.  Looks like Advance Auto has a decent price too.. $132 for the compressor, orifice tube, and "rec. dryer".  Guess I'll be taking a drive over there soon.


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Posted: 6/16/05 6:07pm Message 3 of 14
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the long compressor is the A-6 and the short one is the R-4, a little friendley advice, don't buy a rebuilt unit, of the two GM compressors the R-4 was the weakest the A-6 was the best when new, rebuilt A-4's are plain junk, that the word I get from my AC bud's, you don't want to do the job twice.


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Posted: 6/17/05 5:53pm Message 4 of 14
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Thanks for the advice.  However, the 'new' rebuilt R4 is already bought and installed...guess I should of bought a spanner wrench when I got the a/c stuff!  Right now I'm waiting for a friend to drop off a spanner wrench, then recharge the system, and will wait with anticipation for the cold air to arrive!


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Posted: 6/28/05 8:38pm Message 5 of 14
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Just make sure there is enough oil in the system.  There is no oil pump or reservoir in the R-4 compressor.  The oil is circulated by the freon.  If it's low on oil, it will run hot, even with the proper amount of freon.


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Posted: 6/29/05 6:27am Message 6 of 14
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Ken, good to see you back on line, ya know this Forum is really go for everyone, Yes, I agree with ken.


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Posted: 6/29/05 10:54am Message 7 of 14
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Thanks for the heads up kstyer.  I found that some of the oil comes out while installing the compressor, but it came with a little oil in it too.  I figured I'll use the R-134a that has some oil in it to compensate for the lost oil.

Wish I'd had the chance to chat with you guys before I jumped into this A/C project.  The old compressor was also a rebuilt one, and I let a local shop convert the system to R-134a from R-12.  If I'd done some of my own investigateing, I'd of seen that the entire retro fit and recharge kit is only $40 at Advanced Auto.  Oh well, lesson learned.... Now on to the universial joint and tirod....




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Posted: 7/29/05 7:33am Message 8 of 14
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i had my 77 vette's a/c system rebuilt about 2 yrs. ago. a problem i am having is the a/c belt flopping. yesterday i had another belt installed with the length shortened by an inch. this made the problem better but not completely correct. my mechanic say i might have to have the compressor replaced.does anyone else have this problem. thanks, gene (ge77vet)


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Posted: 7/29/05 7:35am Message 9 of 14
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sorry folks, thats (gs77vet) gene


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Posted: 7/29/05 7:36am Message 10 of 14
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Thanks for the heads up kstyer.  I found that some of the oil comes out while installing the compressor, but it came with a little oil in it too.  I figured I'll use the R-134a that has some oil in it to compensate for the lost oil.

Wish I'd had the chance to chat with you guys before I jumped into this A/C project.  The old compressor was also a rebuilt one, and I let a local shop convert the system to R-134a from R-12.  If I'd done some of my own investigateing, I'd of seen that the entire retro fit and recharge kit is only $40 at Advanced Auto.  Oh well, lesson learned.... Now on to the universial joint and tirod....

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 Buy a can of Ester Oil and dump it in the compressor before you install it. Also, turn the compressor a (Not the pulley) about 10-12 times to get some of the oil on the pistons. Lessons learned the hard way !




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