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5 Speed Transmission tips

Posted: 2/4/11 3:13pm Message 11 of 16
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Vette(s): 1982 Coupe,ZZ383/425HP,Tremec 5 Speed, 354 Dana,VBP Pro Comp dual Mount Suspension, Steeroids Rack & Pinion. Affiliation: Yakima Valley Vettes
Congrats on making the conversion. You will get the best looking C3,(in my opinion), with the performance of the earlier C3s.
 
As for the intake question. Widen the whole in the lower ductwork where the old xfire air cleaners used to get thier air to accept the four barrel air cleaner. You must use K&N top and side flow air cleaner to take advantage of the poor mans Ram Air built into the 82's hood.
 
As far as the pedals go, it sounds very strange. You should have recieved from Kessler one unit, a pretty square unit with a cross rod held in by C clips at both ends. The brake and clutch pedal hang from this rod, they are the same length. After you remove the old brake pedal, carefuly removing the brake light and neutral safety switch the combo unit will bolt into threaded holes in the birdcage that are in all C3s .
 
If you didn't recieve the proper brake/clutch unit call kessler at 865 609-8187 ask for Richard in Tech. extension 201. He is a great guy,
 
Call me at 509 965-6275 and i'll explain a few tricks for getting everything to line up, Or PM me your number and i will call you.
Either way please let me know how the Mass Flow works out for you, I am intriqued by that set up. 
 
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5 Speed Transmission tips

Posted: 2/4/11 3:13pm Message 12 of 16
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5 Speed Transmission tips

Posted: 2/4/11 3:54pm Message 13 of 16
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Vette(s): 1982 Coupe,ZZ383/425HP,Tremec 5 Speed, 354 Dana,VBP Pro Comp dual Mount Suspension, Steeroids Rack & Pinion. Affiliation: Yakima Valley Vettes
Ok, OH6A just pointed out that maybe you are talking from the floor and not the length from the connecting rod. Sorry for the confusion, i didn't read your question thouroughly enough. He is right, though the threaded rod they sent you in the kit gives you some height adjustment. 


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Posted: 2/19/11 3:45pm Message 14 of 16
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Vette(s): 1982 Collector Edition 400 HP ZZ4 and 5 Speed TKO500. 3.54 Rear

The ZZ4 install is proceeding. 

I've run into a few issues that will need some time to sort out.
 
1.  The new Power Steering Pump on the Serp set up has the return hose coming in from the top.  Did you find a molded 3/8" hose to then crimp on to the metal tube?
 
2.  When hooking up the AC Compressor fitting on the back, I'm finding that the hose assembly wants to hit (near the bottom) the Serp bracket that holds the Compressor. 
 
3.  Any suggestions on how to wire the old Alt. Wires into the new Alt harness?
 
4.  I had to remove the idler pulley just below the AC Compressor, as it hit the A-Arm.  Did you do the same?
 
As always thanks for the help
 
Drake



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Posted: 2/19/11 8:56pm Message 15 of 16
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Vette(s): 1981 Blue Ice Met. w/pearl ghost flames TKO500 5speed. LS1 Swap 3.45 Dana 44.
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The ZZ4 install is proceeding. 

I've run into a few issues that will need some time to sort out.
 
1.  The new Power Steering Pump on the Serp set up has the return hose coming in from the top.  Did you find a molded 3/8" hose to then crimp on to the metal tube?
 
2.  When hooking up the AC Compressor fitting on the back, I'm finding that the hose assembly wants to hit (near the bottom) the Serp bracket that holds the Compressor. 
 
3.  Any suggestions on how to wire the old Alt. Wires into the new Alt harness?
 
4.  I had to remove the idler pulley just below the AC Compressor, as it hit the A-Arm.  Did you do the same?
 
As always thanks for the help
 
Drake
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I did a GM serpentine kit on a friend of mines '80 L82 a couple years ago and I remember some of the pitfalls I encountered.

The idler pulley problem hitting the A-Frame: I inverted the pulley bracket. I had to grind away some of the material around the bolt hole ears so that it would fit into the A/C bracket and then found a grooved pulley to replace the smooth pulley. This simply moved the pulley from the outside of the belt to the inside of the belt offering the same amount of support to the serpentine belt. I don't remember or have the part numbers. But the pulley was a Dayco unit from NAPA.

The alternator wiring was solved by using a pigtail with the resistor built in. Another NAPA Echlin part.

The power steering hose was a bit tricky. I had to get the hose to form a large gentle bend. I wasn't happy with it but it worked. My friend moved down to Georgia so I never got a chance to do something better with that.

I didn't have a problem with the A/C lines other than the one aluminum section of the line was rubbing the hood slightly. I gently massaged the line til I gained a little bit of clearance.

If I find the part numbers for the pulley and the wiring harness connector I'll PM them to you.






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5 Speed Transmission tips

Posted: 2/20/11 8:58am Message 16 of 16
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Vette(s): 1982 Collector Edition 400 HP ZZ4 and 5 Speed TKO500. 3.54 Rear
I really apprieciate the help.
 
Any data or pictures on the Alt hook up or mods to the pulley would help a lot.
 
I'm hoping to find a tight 180 3/8" tube that I can use for the connection on the PS line.
 
Drake



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