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Best shift kit for TH350? (1/8)
 4/20/05 10:41am
chesh
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I am looking for a shift kit for my TH350 and am looking for any guidance you guys might have.  Here my selection criteria:

I have a stock '81 350 now.  In a few months, I plan to boost to around 300 - 350 HP with a full top-end swapout.

I'd like a very crisp shift, something that'll chirp the tires and push you back in the seat, but the car will never see the strip and I don't won't it so severe that it over-stressing anything else. 

The transmission currently leaks.  However, I have so many things leaking on this car and so much oil and grease on the engine and transmission that I haven't yet identified where the leak is.  When I first bought it 18 months ago, I had a mechanic replace the tranny fluid, filter, and or course pan gasket, but it still leaks.  Anyway... the reason I mention this is that I once read that B&M kits raise the pressure of fluid in the tranny, but Transgo does not.  Anyone know if that is true?  Wouldn't increased pressure increase any leakage I have, assuming I can't totally stop it at some point?

Any problems with shift kits and the lock-up feature of the torque converter on '81 Vettes?

Any advice would be much appreciated!

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Best shift kit for TH350? (2/8)
 4/20/05 11:42am
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The increased pressure does not change any leakage factor.  The pressure increase is in the lines and components, but not in the case.    What the increased pressure does is make the clutches and  bands apply tighter.  This prevents slippage under increased torque loads.  It also makes it shift a bit harder.  With the increased HP, I would recommend it. 

The kit with out pressure increases makes the shift firmer, and thereby a bit quicker.  This may pick up acelleration times from the quicker shift, but does nothing to handle the extra torque.

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Best shift kit for TH350? (3/8)
 4/20/05 8:01pm
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Please!! I beg you!! Run away from the B&M kit!! IMO, they are WAY overpriced for what you get. I do this for a living, so I may have an edge here, but I would recommend a kit from Superior, as it will allow you to go from nice, clean shifts, to break the windershield shifts, depending on your preference. ALL "shift kits" raise line pressure, but that's not the only thing that creates a clean shift. The shift timing, APPLY pressures, and the quality of the friction has more to do with a good shift than just jackin' the line up. I also use the Transgo kits, but I prefer the simplicity of the Superior products for the most part. They are not cheap, but WELL worth the $$$ for anyone who only wants to do it once! Just remember, tho, a shift kit won't fix a trans that really needs a rebuild, and could possibly send a worn unit to an early grave! Do yourself a favor, and get the trans freshened up along with the kit, you'll be a lot happier in the end!

Check this out. I use the "350HD" kits for my hot-rod stuff, but either is just as good.
http://www.superior-transmission.com/products/shift_correcti on/350_cnts.htm
If you click on the pic of the box, it will give you more info on the kit. Adams' Apple38462.8433449074

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Best shift kit for TH350? (4/8)
 4/28/05 6:06pm
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Thanks Ken and Adam.  One more question (OK, maybe two): My THM-350 takes about a half a second to shift once it feels like it has "decided" to shift.  During that time, you get little accelleration.  I used to have a '69 Camaro with a THM-400 and a shift kit.  That tranny went from one gear to another in an instant.   Ken once responded that the slow shifting was not abnormal for the THM-350.  Is this a poor tranny in stock form or what?  It is the slowness that I am trying to eliminate.  Will the shift kits do that, or will the shift still be slow, but firm once it finally kicks into the next gear?

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 4/28/05 7:00pm
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Quite the contrary, the THM 350 is a very good tranny.  The soft shift you feel is designed in for comfort more than for ultimate performance.  And yes, a shift kit can make it so crisp it will bark the  tires when it shifts.  Of course that depends on the kit you install.
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Best shift kit for TH350? (6/8)
 4/28/05 7:12pm
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Ken is right...the 350 is a very good unit. It was used from 1969 'till '83/84, available in just about every vehicle G.M. made. Most don't hang around that long. The 'shift kit' will definitely improve the feel of the shifts, and prolong the useful life of the unit, because of the decrease in fluid temp from not sliding into the gears. It won't fix a worn or damaged trans, but they are well worth the effort & $$ if you want a nice, clean shifting unit.

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Best shift kit for TH350? (7/8)
 4/29/05 5:06am
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Thanks guys.  That's what I wanted to hear.  Sorry, I should have thought a little more ans asked all of my questions the first time around... 
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Best shift kit for TH350? (8/8)
 4/29/05 10:56am
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My opinion on the best shift kit is the Turbo Action kit.  This kit was designed specifically for corvettes as the owner used to own one.

 

http://www.turboaction.com/frame.html

I would say that 50% of drag racers is using some form of their products.



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