Topic: Greypoupon Tranny Rebuild
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She may be in ICU now, but I predict a full recovery and she will be better than ever when she gets out!
Sadly, my baby is now hibernating in a pole barn west of the cities until May, ...don't drive her in the winter here in da' frozen nort".
There is no substitute for low end torque! 
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[QUOTE=greypoupon69][QUOTE=Dejablu]Ya know Micki, that's what happens when ya power shift the Greypoupon so much! 
Just look at it this way, with a new engine and tranny, it'll be ready for another 39 years when ya get her back. 
A Vette with alot of miles on it is a happy Vette.
Good to see it will be better than new.
How cool.
Just look at it this way, with a new engine and tranny, it'll be ready for another 39 years when ya get her back.
Larry
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Larry, I don't even punch the gas that much.........just every now and then.
I guess the guy that owned her before me drove it a lot and then let her sit. There were a lot of miles on her with I got her.
[/QUOTE]A Vette with alot of miles on it is a happy Vette.
Good to see it will be better than new.
How cool.
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She may be in ICU now, but I predict a full recovery and she will be better than ever when she gets out!
Sadly, my baby is now hibernating in a pole barn west of the cities until May, ...don't drive her in the winter here in da' frozen nort".
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AWWWWW.............that's so sweet....
.....nice of you to say that.
.....nice of you to say that.YUCK, 6 and a half months of waiting........I hope it goes by fast!
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Micki,
how many miles did the Poopon have? I'm just wonderin how long it takes to create that kind of wear
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[QUOTE=manget1]
Marshall(and everyone), it's not really a function of mileage that creates the wear/damage on the gears like this. Though it does come in to play, it's not the main cause.
The main cause is...abuse, bad shifting habits, and/or improper clutch dis-engagement(adjustment or sticking disc).
Not to imply that Micki or Dave has abused the Poop Vette...far from it.
But someone else owned the car before she did.
The wear on the synchro teeth of the gears is caused by the synchro rings(brass) not fully stopping/slowing the gears to the proper speed for smooth engagement. This can be because the brass itself is just slap worn out, or due to power shifting, or shifting without using the clutch. What happens it the synchro slider/coupler grinds into the teeth of the gears, wearing both down. Over time, this causes a grinding when shifting, and popping out of gear. It pops out of gear because there is no longer enough "meat" on the synchro teeth to hold the slider to the gear.
It's rare to see a trans that has damage like this on all of the main drive gears, but it does happen. It's more common to see this wear/damage on 3rd gear only, with 2nd gear damage being next most common.
So....just for your information folks, if ya have a standard trans, treat it nice! Make sure the clutch adjustments are correct, and use the clutch! Make sure your trans lube is changed every once and a while!
Micki,
how many miles did the Poopon have? I'm just wonderin how long it takes to create that kind of wear
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Marshall(and everyone), it's not really a function of mileage that creates the wear/damage on the gears like this. Though it does come in to play, it's not the main cause.
The main cause is...abuse, bad shifting habits, and/or improper clutch dis-engagement(adjustment or sticking disc).
Not to imply that Micki or Dave has abused the Poop Vette...far from it.
But someone else owned the car before she did.
The wear on the synchro teeth of the gears is caused by the synchro rings(brass) not fully stopping/slowing the gears to the proper speed for smooth engagement. This can be because the brass itself is just slap worn out, or due to power shifting, or shifting without using the clutch. What happens it the synchro slider/coupler grinds into the teeth of the gears, wearing both down. Over time, this causes a grinding when shifting, and popping out of gear. It pops out of gear because there is no longer enough "meat" on the synchro teeth to hold the slider to the gear.
It's rare to see a trans that has damage like this on all of the main drive gears, but it does happen. It's more common to see this wear/damage on 3rd gear only, with 2nd gear damage being next most common.
So....just for your information folks, if ya have a standard trans, treat it nice! Make sure the clutch adjustments are correct, and use the clutch! Make sure your trans lube is changed every once and a while!
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Thanks, Joel!
Good explaination!! 
Good explaination!!
For one thing, there was a time when the wrong clutch fork was installed which didn't help the tranny.
The clutch fork is correct now.
I don't abuse my car, guys..........I love my baby!
The clutch fork is correct now. I don't abuse my car, guys..........I love my baby!�����
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[QUOTE=greypoupon69]Thanks, Joel! Good explaination!!
Good explaination!!
For one thing, there was a time when the wrong clutch fork was installed which didn't help the tranny. The clutch fork is correct now. I don't abuse my car, guys..........I love my baby!
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The clutch fork is correct now. I don't abuse my car, guys..........I love my baby!Micki, we know you love the poupon and would never abuse her. We were just kidding ya a little bit and didn't mean to hurt your feelings. It will be so great when you get her back and can cruise the highways and bi-ways again.
Larry
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Joel,
Thanks for the simple, yet great, explanation of this kind of wear. Micki, I know you must very excited with the upcoming upgrades and repairs. I am very envious of you and Ken(kstyer). Enjoy it!
Scott
Thanks for the simple, yet great, explanation of this kind of wear. Micki, I know you must very excited with the upcoming upgrades and repairs. I am very envious of you and Ken(kstyer). Enjoy it!
Scott
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