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Re: od unit

Posted: 12/29/14 5:02pm Message 11 of 13
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Gig Harbor, WA - USA
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Vette(s): 1973 L82 4 Speed Coupe - Very original, well documented driver/survivor. 2016 Bend Regional NCRS Top Flight.
I've got a GV unit on my motorhome and it works great. Can't imagine how it would even fit into something like a corvette !!?? I'd research some of the other suggestions.


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Re: od unit

Posted: 12/29/14 6:14pm Message 12 of 13
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Vette(s): 1972 LT-1 convertible with factory air. 2017 Black Rose Grand Sport convertible.
Adams' Apple said: Back in the day, Joel Rosen(Motion) installed some Hone O/D units in Shark cars. Those are about the same physical size as the GV units. The amount of cutting and fitting to get that unit in was incredible. The trans tunnel had to be widened quit a bit, and the frame/crossmember modified to the hilt. In the end, the cost wasn't worth the trouble. He only did 3-4, if I remember correctly. I have a tech article on it somewhere, and it shows what all is needed to complete the install.
There IS a kit available to put an overdrive gear into the stock Muncie 4 speed. It is still a 4 speed, but 4th gear is overdrive. About $300 for the kit, last time I looked, plus the labor for the conversion, and it all fits exactly like it came from the factory...no cutting or any other modification. It involves changing the cluster gear, and the 3rd gear on the main shaft of the trans, and flipping the 3-4 shift lever over on the outside of the trans. It's a pretty neat set-up, for someone wanting to keep the stock look/trans, but have an O/D ratio in 4th. The bad part is it will not work in a BW Super T-10 trans....only the Muncies. Ouch
The next best option is to go with the Keisler, or similar swap to a 5 or 6 speed. Lot more work, but you get better ratios all around that way.





I find this interesting.  Here's part of one on ebay:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Muncie-M21-Overdrive-Cluster-Gear-Italian-Steel-Auto-Gear-M21Y-WT297-8H-/201252074545?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2edb8ef431&vxp=mtr



   

Re: od unit

Posted: 12/29/14 10:14pm Message 13 of 13
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Vette(s): 1976 L48 auto

1978 L82 4speed

1994 LT1 6speed

Didn't realize Kiesler is now out of business, but anyhow, their transmission was a Tremmec TKO just for information.  They sold a kit and had their own off-set shifter as the Tremmec at the time was only a top loader in the center of the transmission.  Few years later there was a bolt on offset shifter made for Tremmecs 5 speeds.  

Hopefully your transmission mount is a bolt in, mine on my 1978 was a weld-in crossmember.  Kiesler claimed it was a simple (ok air quotes "simple") bolt in installation.  Unbolt the motor mounts and radiator,jack the motor up,  slide the transmission upside down into the tunnel and pull forward and rotate....  yeah right.......  I know Darryl's was a bolt in crossmember so he didn't have toooo much trouble.. ;)  but as for the T56 six speed, i'm not so sure about, but I kinda recall its a very very tight fit...  but had I to do it over again, I probably would do it over again with the 5 speed.  I don't race or drag with it (much) so it is a good cruiser transmission.  By the way I am running a 4.10 rear gear and in 5th gear I turn about 2200 rpm at 60-65 mph... roughly 20-22 mpg with a zz4 355 hp crate motor and 750 holley...




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